Oldsbiel

Hi,

I live in Switzerland and I own a '57 Oldsmobile Golden Rocket 4door Hardtopcoupé. The car was built by GM/Switzerland together in the engine room has a plaque bearing the following:

Genaral Motors Suisse SA
Bienne

Make Oldsmobile
Type 89
Body Style 36 39 SD
Engine No. A034069E
Chassis No. SS 57-74-9
Release No. SS 57-74-9
No Coulor x 201
Trim No x 5739

Who can tell me more about my car. GM / Switzerland and GM NAV Customer Assistance Center Klintberg & Way/Sweden does not seem to belong to my vehicle has more documentation.

Pictures of my car and the badge are

www.1957oldsmobile.jimdo.com

Please excuse my bad english. I translate with Google Onlinetranslator

Greetings from Switzerland

Bernhard

citcapp

I did not know they assembled 57 Oldsmobiles in Switzerland. Wish I could help you out with information, Hopefully someone on site can steer you in the right direction. That is a beautiful 4 door and a rare find I am sure. because of its history.

Lady72nRob71

Welcome!
Nice site you have! I cannot read most of it but the car looks great.
I enjoyed it in Switzerland 5 years ago - I bet that Olds really stands out!

64Rocket

When you click on the link, it brings down a bar to translate. The language is in German but said he lives in Switzerland.
Would be great to know more of the car and the owners and how long it was in storage.

Gene

Oldsguy

Welcome to CO, beautiful car!

olds425

Welcome to the site. Beatiful car! Your English is fine.

Jamesbo

Welcome aboard

You English is much better than mine.

Oldsbiel

Thanks for the warm welcome

@ Kitcap here are the production figures from Switzerland
http://clubs.hemmings.com/clubsites/chevytalk/GMhistory/gmsuisse.html

@ Lady72nRob71, I am pleased if it did you like here

Rocket @ 64: In Switzerland we speak German, Italian and French. I live in German-speaking Switzerland. I have the pages of the homepage now translated into English goggle. I hope you can now read the history of the car

Short Form:
... Delivered in 1957 an industry leader
... around 1962 he died
... the car was 25 years in an underground car park
... two friends from buying the car of the widow
... repaired, and run about 3 years
... then they sold it in Switzerland
... It was sold to a German car dealer exports to Germany
... there it was again 3 years until I found it and brought back to Switzerland

http://1957oldsmobile.jimdo.com/spra...o-get-marilyn/

Ddbord

Hi, Bernhard!

Welcome to ClassicOldsmobile.com

Sie haben sicherlich ein schönes Auto. Viele von uns werden neidisch sein!

(You certainly have a beautiful car. Many of us will be envious!)

I had a red Olds station wagon in 1957....

--Don
.

cutlassgal

Welcome to our site!

Oldsbiel

Don, how should I understand this now?

Don, wie soll ich das jetzt verstehen?

positiv or negativ?

If so, then you make even a few thoughts about it, I do not live in the U.S. and here in Switzerland six 1957 Oldsmobile are known. It could be my car is the only survivor from Swiss production. In one of the six I know that it is Imprtiert from the U.S. ...

I know, it sounds to you as a stupid question, but where is now the difference between 88, Super 88, 89, and 98

In www. I read only confusing but

Bernhard

Oldsguy

It started back in 1940 when Oldsmobile stopped using letter designations for the models (like F, G, or L) and started using number designations (60,70, and 90 series). 60 was the smallest and 90 was the largest. In 1941 they added a different second digit to indicate the engine type, 6 for the six cylinder or 8 for the eight cylinder. So in 1941 there were the 66 models, 68 models, 76 models, 78 models, 96 models and finally the 98 models. In 1942 they went back to the 60, 70 and 90 series. After the war they had the 60 series, the 76 models, the 78 models, and finally the 46-90 models (strange isn't it?). In 1947 there were the 66, 68, 76, 78, and 98. In 1948 there were the 66, 68, 76, 78, and the 98. In 1948 Oldsmobile changed it up a little. There were the 76, the 88, and the 98. So 1948 was the first year for the 88 models. In 1951 the Super 88 was introduced, it was the middle series but it had a new styling predicting the 1952 year. The base model was now the 88, the middle was the Super 88 and the top was the 98. You can see these printed as numbers, or spelled out like this Eighty Eight.

Oldsbiel

Thanks Dan for your implementation.

But I must to rake again. I understand it correctly now:
88 has such as "only"
88 electric Windows cranks,
Super 88 and has gold decorated electric Windows 98.

Car, in particular the engine is the same, the equipment is crucial for the digit.

Only the difference of the J-2 option is original. May be a 88 with J-2 88 or 98 with J-2.

right?

Bernhard

Addendum: In my car documents as a model S 89. The S stands for Super, but now where does the 89 come from?

Oldsguy

I didn't understand the 89. It may be a special designation for the cars Oldsmobile actually built in the continent, a way to differentiate them from those built in America. Or it could be a transcribed error, perhaps the person doing the paperwork meant to record 88 but made an error either in hand writing or typing and it came out 89. Sorry I can't help with that.

J2 was an option for that year on that model car with the V8. The standard equipment was the 4 barrel carburetor but a person could order an optional induction system which replaced the carburetor and manifold with a manifold and three 2 barrel carburetors, this was the J2. I think there is another thread presently running which explains it more clearly, if you search the term J2 you should be able to find it and read it.

belgium57olds

hello Bernhard ,

i have also a europeen build 57 ' type 89 four door holyday sedan build in the assembly plant in Antwerp Belgium there where a few plants in europe that assembeld us cars like oldsmobile ,chevrolet buick ,pontiac cadillac the type 89 is correckt for a four door super 88 holyday sedan i have a lot of information on europeen build us cars i take some pic's and put them on this thread .

greetz from Belgium

marc

Oldsbiel

Hi Marc,
that would be great.

Thank you

Gruss aus der Schweiz

Bernhard

citcapp

Cool Marc,

All us 57 owners along with others would like to see this information. Close up pictures of the dash would be nice along with engine shots as well

Thanks

belgium57olds

hello guys ,

let me clear this out , on Europeen build they not assambeld the plane 88 serie you can only order a super 88 and 98 serie and on bouth serie's you can chooce between a 4 door sedan , a 4 door holyday sedan and a holyday coupe' and a convertible coupe' only this four type of models where available .
so for the super 88 serie are the type number that GM gave to the models as folow :

type 87 4 door deluxe sedan
type 89 4 door deluxe holyday sedan
type 85 2 door holyday coupe'
type 84 2 door convertible coupe'

for the 98 serie


type 97 4 door deluxe sedan
type 99 4 door deluxe holyday sedan
type 95 2 door holyday coupe'
type 94 2 door convertible coupe'

so the type number is not the serie number super 88 or 98 serie i now its a little confusing but thats the way it was .
I will take some pic's of my super 88 type 89 tomorow and include a picture of the id plate ans the dash .


greetz

marc

Oldsbiel

woww, now the label in my vehicle and that makes sense on the plaque.
I think that the American fans from oldsmobile again a lot to like I also learned. I look forward to more information from you.

Thank you very much

P.S. what we learn from it ...? Not only the Americans have built good American cars )

Rickman48

Wow - I had NO idea there was a GM plant in Switzerand!!!
Love learning new things, daily, from this site!
Funny how there were more '55 Chevys built than '57's, as the '57 was more popular here!
Guess everything built there was truly a 'special order'!
How long from order to delivery??
Welcome aboard, and thanks for the info!!!

1969w3155

Welcome, the '57 dash is one of the best of all time, just love it.

Oldsguy

Marc,
That is some good historical information that probably most of us from the US did not know. So I guess my assumption was partly correct then. Those cars are still Oldsmobile through and through.

citcapp

Great information, thanks a lot

belgium57olds

hello guys ,


thaks for appreciate the information on this subjeckt ,here are the picture's that i promised , the weather was so bath today that i take the pic's in my garage sorry for that .


greetz

marc

Oldsbiel

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Oldsmobile 1957-----------> 48 Stk
1957 BELIEVED FIRST USE OF "SS" PLANT CODE FROM NOW ON
Oldsmobile 1958-----------> 48 Stk

citcapp

Very cool. love that 200 kmh speedometer.

belgium57olds

hello bernhard ,


yes indeed we have the same 57 'olds type 89 so now you now .


greetz

marc

Oldsbiel

Hi marc,

Now where exactly is the difference between the United States in the assembled vehicles and the cars from Europe. I was told that the Swiss car was sealed and the cavity instead of Lukas in the U.S., Switzerland -> Bosch components were used.

If it is true that since all parts are different?

--- Speedometer
--- Starter
--- Alternator
--- Actuators such as power windows seat adjustment
--- Wiper motor

What is z, B, .... with components of the brake, steering

what struck me the headlights are from Lukas, the generator is from Bosch. Accident or from work?

Gruss aus der Schweiz

KalleWirsch