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I am going against the grain here but after a lot of thought this is really what I want. I started with the suspension and exhaust, Replaced all the control arms to a more performance orienteted pieces with revised geometry.tall ball joints, CCP coilovers, bigger sway bars,On the exhaust I used the Magna Flow stainless steel kit first perfect,Flowtech Coated headers,for the most part they fit good.My Billet Specialties wheel be here this week' will follow up with pictures. The next stage is Holley fuel injection, brake upgrade,then some engine mods.There will be other things as I go along. A little back ground on the car, I am the second owner, was in the same family for 50 years to the month. I have owned it for 6 years. It was restored by a very well known shop in Calif 24 years ago and kept in a climate controlled hangar for the biggest part of that. It may have at most 200 miles since the resto. Every part used was Nos at the time, the detail is off the chart, it was judged 998 points by the Olds club of America, took a Concourse Gold a few years ago at the MCACN. This will be about a year's journey I figure to get what I want.My plans are to hit some shows, drag race it and just enjoy the changes I am making. All stock parts have been stored and packed away for someone who will get the car later.
Why are you posting this? Do you hope to get approval for what you've done? You won't get it from me. You could have chosen any old car to modify and "personalize", but instead you had to defile a piece of history. I don't know who's worse, you or the guy who LS-swapped his W-30.
I think it's actually a form of trolling, albeit an expensive one. Yeah, your car, your choice, but don't try to make me like it.
Who cares what you thank except a few here that have your Ideas. I need no ones approval for what I did, to old for that. I just don't have same feelings as you , piece of history? True but I am a firm believer that the car would sale for more with updates, the market clearly shows that. Go throw your temper tantrum somewhere else cause I don't care. If I post anymore here please don't open. In closing, I offered this car up for sale a few months ago but there were no takers, you could have saved a piece of history.
I really thought that page was for people's projects? I don't need people to approve one way or the other. I have gotten Ideas from just looking at what people are building and working on. You sir have made your point clear so just go on to something else, you will not change anything at this point. And really it is not any of your business what I do with my car, you have voiced your opinion more then once now. If I post again or not it's not changing my plans going forward, At 71 years old more then likely I will donate the car or give it to someone, or it might sale, I am not concerned much about it's future. Where ever it ends up all the stock parts are there to go with it. I will not respond to anymore of your rambling, just get over it.
I have owned it for 6 years. It was restored by a very well known shop in Calif 24 years ago and kept in a climate controlled hangar for the biggest part of that. It may have at most 200 miles since the resto. Every part used was Nos at the time, the detail is off the chart, it was judged 998 points by the Olds club of America, took a Concourse Gold a few years ago at the MCACN. This will be about a year's journey I figure to get what I want.My plans are to hit some shows, drag race it and just enjoy the changes I am making. All stock parts have been stored and packed away for someone who will get the car later.
I applaud 928’s efforts to personalize a great car with non invasive bolt ons & factory parts stored. The car can have either identity. Also applaud its intended uses. Nothing defiled, just “identifying” differently!
I have a 69 w31 also and have been thinking about spicing it up, but im gonna remove the numbers matching block and trans set them aside for a later date when i decide to restore the car. After going to Lansing and Olds nations i was kinda disappointed. I’ve been restoring a 69 w30 for about 2 years now and there aren’t a lot of guys restoring cars back to the factory spec. Everyone has there own twist to there cars which is cool to. The big thing is getting younger people to fall in love with these cars. So i see both sides here the good thing is he’s still building an Olds to his liking. Im glad you didn’t sell it and buy a fox body.
I really thought that page was for people's projects?
It is. He's being an *** because you didn't build your car the way he wanted and for some reason he thinks his opinion on the topic actually matters.
Anyway, good choice going with the Terminator instead of the Sniper. I had good luck with my Sniper over four years of use, but they have a lot of common failure points. The Terminator is better. Even so, pay attention to the wiring instructions and avoid running anything near the ignition - the EMI/RFI issues are a royal pain when you don't run wiring properly. I also do recommend either spending the money on a professional to help tune it, or spending a lot of time in the documentation and on the Holley forums learning everything you can. The whole "self tuning" thing is misleading at best.
The trend is resto mod as they say. More and more people are moving in that direction. The 1000 point cars are fewer and fewer. I thought long and hard and this is the way for me. As for the motor not sure yet how much I do but will cross that bridge that year. A 200R4 trans is on my list also. Good luck and have fun!!
You are right on the tuning. We run it on one of our race cars so know enough to get things up and running but have a great tuner who tunes the race car.
I'm not being an *** at all. There's nothing wrong with building a restomod. All I'm saying is, why do it with a car that already has so much intrinsic value? For one thing, pragmatically speaking, the initial buy-in is significantly cheaper if you start with a less desirable model, plus you can build it any way you want without fretting about ruining its provenance. There's the question of value too -- restomods are certainly hotter than factory-style restos right now (and actually have been for some time) but who's to say the trend will continue? You don't see anybody hotrodding old Duesenbergs, do you?
I certainly appreciate that OP has taken pains to remove and preserve the original parts he's removed, though. Years ago, I did the same thing with a '68 Camaro SS and when I sold it, I showed the new owner all the carefully labeled boxes of parts I took off it that were supposed to go with, and he said, "Nah, you can keep all that crap. I'm just gonna drive it."
And speaking of that last, there's this: the driving experience. I don't know about you, but if I want something that drives like a new Corvette, I'll buy a new Corvette. I drive 60's A-bodies just because the experience is so different than that of a new car.
A final observation: I believe if OP is honest with himself, he'll admit that there's an element of FU in his build -- as if he's saying "look what I can do to this high-end collector vehicle. I can restomod it without a second thought about originality or provenance and all you 'purists' can go fry your asses."
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Different strokes for different folks. I completely understand the desire of keeping the W-machines close to factory correct for historical purposes like BangScreetch does. But, after already wringing that rag dry with this car for years, and it a big way I might add, I completely understand 928's desire to have more fun with this car than the factory provided. Doing it so that it can all be reversed by a future owner is the icing on the cake IMO (I take it your drivetrain is still W31 stock??). I'm staring down the same barrel of suspension modifications while my motor is out in the next year or so, and will be using 928's car as incentive. Thanks for the post!
^^^ Agree, but not to the extent that you remove all traces of the W-31's original character, as appears to be 928's objective. At that point, all you have is just another GM A-body restomod that drives like a new car. The uniqueness of the W-31 will be gone, most likely never to teturn.
Yes it has the numbers matching motor and trans. The motor is solid. It was rebuilt with Forged pistons,W31 flat tops, Nos cam, I used a bore a scope to check.Also did a comp test. it is solid Most all were at 155 to 160psi, but this was at 8500 DA that day may have been a bit higher. I live at 7000ft and it was 90 degrees that day. So more like 210 to 220 psi at sea level.
I have had 2 people contact me through PM with cars they would like to update but don't want to have to deal with someone who will question there decision. This is a shame, As I told them push on and do what you want and tune out the BS. It's your car To do anything you want. I see I am in a group that has the same thoughts I do,I would like to see other people mods as this is where I get Ideas at times. Just push on and tune out the noise.
^^^ Agree, but not to the extent that you remove all traces of the W-31's original character, as appears to be 928's objective. At that point, all you have is just another GM A-body restomod that drives like a new car. The uniqueness of the W-31 will be gone, most likely never to teturn.
What character? A W31 is a cold air intake and a hot cam in a small block. The only thing that makes it special is the rarity of the option package.
Restomods aren't your thing? Then move on. I love a factory looking car that drives like a modern car. That is the ultimate perfection in my view. Because while these cars look great, they don't drive great. They're not fast, they don't handle, they don't stop well, they don't ride great, they're pretty damned mediocre. But I don't go around on your threads, or any of the others trying to maintain originality, and rail about how terrible their cars are.
For everyone that's butt-hurt, I don't see anywhere that this car was ever a documented W31 anyway, and even if it is, everything that was done to this beautiful car is bolt-on...
I am back with some observations on all the work that took place on my W31. As most who have done the same modes on their cars would say, night and day difference and for the better. It is now a fun car to drive and look forward to getting out on the mountain roads here in Colorado. I used the CCP coilovers, 450 Rate front springs and 175 in the rear. I have the Viking shocks set a little on the soft side, being double adjustable a little goes a long way. Also using the CCP front and rear control arms front having the revised geometry with the long ball joints. As for the complete Magnaflow exhaust, quite is the best way to describe it. I was very surprised on that, even with the long tube headers. With all this work I did some tuning on the motor side it was needed, I put about 35 degrees timing in it and made some carb adjustments, this thing runs pretty good for being at this elevation, 7000 ft with DA most of the time in the 8 to 9000 ft range.May take it to the track soon to base line it. Will start installing the Holley system in Oct when things slow down a bit. I do have a question though, What are the best ways to store a Carb for long term? This is the original 255 part and I want to make sure I protect it as much as possible. Anyone else thinking about these mods I say go for it.
I do have a question though, What are the best ways to store a Carb for long term? This is the original 255 part and I want to make sure I protect it as much as possible.
Having never done this before, I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If it were me, I'd disassemble, clean and "rebuild" it. Then put it in an airtight bag and add a desiccant bag to keep things dry. Store it in a climate-controlled area to avoid any chance of condensation from forming.
Having never done this before, I'm taking a shot in the dark here. If it were me, I'd disassemble, clean and "rebuild" it. Then put it in an airtight bag and add a desiccant bag to keep things dry. Store it in a climate-controlled area to avoid any chance of condensation from forming.
[QUOTE=928sport;1646386]I am back with some observations on all the work that took place on my W31. As most who have done the same modes on their cars would say, night and day difference and for the better. It is now a fun car to drive and look forward to getting out on the mountain roads here in Colorado. I used the CCP coilovers, 450 Rate front springs and 175 in the rear. I have the Viking shocks set a little on the soft side, being double adjustable a little goes a long way. Also using the CCP front and rear control arms front having the revised geometry with the long ball joints. As for the complete Magnaflow exhaust, quite is the best way to describe it. I was very surprised on that, even with the long tube headers. With all this work I did some tuning on the motor side it was needed, I put about 35 degrees timing in it and made some carb adjustments, this thing runs pretty good for being at this elevation, 7000 ft with DA most of the time in the 8 to 9000 ft range.May take it to the track soon to base line it. Will start installing the Holley system in Oct when things slow down a bit. I do have a question though, What are the best ways to store a Carb for long term? This is the original 255 part and I want to make sure I protect it as much as possible. Anyone else thinking about these mods I say go for it.[/QDrain the carb and let it dry out.UOTE]
I would empty the carb and let it dry out for a couple days or so. Maybe turn it upside down a day or two.
I would find someone with a "Food Saver" vacuum sealer with 11" wide rolls. Fit the carb inside with a parts tag with pertinent info and date. Then vacuum seal the carb in the bag. It wouldn't hurt to put that inside another bag and vacuum seal that bag.
your jealousy of this guys build is thick enough to cut with a knife
you’re a child
... and you're an illiterate troll. Every thread you get involved in degenerates into an exercise in ESL ****-flinging. There's an archive full of your posts on CO that proves it.
Now that OP's car has been revealed to be a clone in the first place, I'm cheering him on. Go crazy, dude.
... and you're an illiterate troll. Every thread you get involved in degenerates into an exercise in ESL ****-flinging. There's an archive full of your posts on CO that proves it.
Now that OP's car has been revealed to be a clone in the first place, I'm cheering him on. Go crazy, dude.
bungsqueek244 has spoken…so he’s ok now to do what he wants?
