Build sheet??? and what's that behind the rear seat???

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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Build sheet??? and what's that behind the rear seat???

I spent the afternoon stripping the interior. The seats, center console, and carpet. I was hoping I'd find the build sheet under the carpet, but no such luck. Its not over the gove compartment, not behind the rear seat and not over the gas tank (had that out 15 years ago to replace the sending unit).

Any other places it might be? I'm guessing in never had one left in it.

Interestingly, I did find a quarter dated 1971 UNDER the sound matting under the carpet!!! I do wonder if it was dropped by an assembly line worker??? I'm saving it for good luck anyway!

Speaking of behind the rear seat cushion. What the heck is that silver canister looking thing? Its about 8 inches tall, an inch thick, and may 6 inches wide. Maybe zinc plated or galvanized? Bolted at the bottom to where the floor pan comes up to mee the trunk. Sounds hollow. I haven't clue what it is!

Anyway, a productive day though I hate seeing my car dismantled piece by piece.

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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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I've also heard of build sheets being under the front or rear seat up in the springs or inside one of the doors. But you're right, not all cars ended up with one as there was no official policy that they be placed in the car somewhere during the assembly process.

It would help to post a picture of this canister thing you're talking about. Also, what model/year car are we talking about here?
Old May 20, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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Sorry...its a 72 442 W30.

I'm going to see if that part is addressed in the assembly manual. If I can't find it there I'll take a picture of it.

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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by benji94
I'm going to see if that part is addressed in the assembly manual.
I can't believe it wouldn't be, but given where it is in the car (i.e., not the engine compartment), it could very likely be covered in the body manual. I've got both manuals for both of my cars, and they're needed because some things will be covered in the manual you'd least expect.
Old May 20, 2010 | 07:38 PM
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Ok...looking through the assemly manual now. I also have the 72 Chassis manual and the 72 Fisher body manual. I'll crack them next. Its bugging me what this thing is or what it does.

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Old May 20, 2010 | 07:40 PM
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It'll be there somewhere.
Old May 20, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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it is part of the evaptive emissions it sparate liquil fuel from vapor. its pumped between gas tank and canster. 71 and 72 cars only.

sorry about spelling
Old May 20, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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Yup...you nailed it! I just found it in the 72 Chassis assembly manual, Chapter 8 (Fuel and Exhaust Systems), page 3. Its called the Fuel Standpipe Assembly. From the manual:

"A standpipe is mounted to the floor pan in the kick-up area behind the rear seat cushion. Its purpose is to separate liquid from vapor. Liquid fuel that may enter the standpipe will return to the tank through the rear vent line. There is a group of three pipes on the right side of the standpipe. The center pipe in this group is the center vent pipe that leads to the rear of the tank. The other two are also vent pipes and lead to the right and left front corners of the tank. The single pipe in the left leads to the canister in the engine compartment."

Just fascinating!!!

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Old May 21, 2010 | 05:16 AM
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If you get under the car and look at the hoses going from the standpipe / separator, you will often find rotten, cracked originals that need to be replaced.
I replaced mine last month and my garage no longer smells like gas.
Old May 21, 2010 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
But you're right, not all cars ended up with one as there was no official policy that they be placed in the car somewhere during the assembly process.
Actually there *was* policy, and that was that the build sheets were to be put in the trash at the end of the line. The policy wasn't wasn't a big deal and wasn't enforced except at Lansing. So finding a build on a Lansing built car is almost impossible.
What can *possibly* be found is the Fisher Body broadcast card (example shown), but one is not usually there, and there is much more limited info on one.
Usually found in seatbacks.
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Old May 21, 2010 | 06:56 AM
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Thanks Rob...you can be assured that every hose, line, part, nut and bolt that I can replace will be replaced!

I always wondered why so many lines up under there...now I know.

Also, I replaced the sending unit in the tank in 95 and replaced those hoses back then. Regardless, they are getting replaced again.

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Old May 21, 2010 | 06:59 AM
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Kurt...I appreciate the info. As I understand, the 72 W30s were all built in Lansing. So I can just stop looking for it!

Thanks.
Old May 21, 2010 | 07:11 AM
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and Steve - you have the holy grail of W30 documentation - the X in the VIN. It's always nice to find the broadcast sheet or better yet the buildsheet but at least you have that X
Old May 21, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Steve, That is funny about the 71 quarter as I found a 1972 recently when I tore mine apart and I am keeping it for good luck as well.

Great car and can't wait to see the progress
Old May 21, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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I found a handfull of change when i pulled my carpet out, along with all sorts of other stuff like buttons, crayons, candy wrappers, rifle shells, AND the broadcast sheet.
I found some lady's sleepwear under the seat, too - makes me wonder...

An old car comes with all sorts of stories, just waiting to be uncovered!
Old May 21, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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I found no ladies clothing in mine! I feel ripped off.
Old May 21, 2010 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Toyaholic
I found no ladies clothing in mine! I feel ripped off.
Since since Lady earned her name before hand, it was just meant to be...
Old May 21, 2010 | 10:42 AM
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No ladies clothes in mine either...just a buch of factory and dealer docs in the glove box like thank you letter from the dealer and som 22 rounds but no clothes

But the good thing is maybe there will be some left in there in the future lol

So toyaholic....just time to play
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