70 cutlass supreme convertible my first frame off

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 15, 2020 | 10:36 AM
  #41  
Jeffs71's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 89
From: NY
Nice project to putter along with ! I thought the car looked like it had been underwater from the photos
Old Jun 15, 2020 | 10:26 PM
  #42  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Originally Posted by Jeffs71
Nice project to putter along with ! I thought the car looked like it had been underwater from the photos
I am sure my wallet will be underwater in the end.
Old Jun 15, 2020 | 10:33 PM
  #43  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Started prepping the donor frame for body mount repair.



Pretty happy with the placement hopefully the welding will go well.



This one may be a little trickier
Old Jun 16, 2020 | 06:48 AM
  #44  
Eddie Hansen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,515
From: South River, New Jersey
well it's getting real now, eating an elephant starts with little bites, nice work so far
Old Jun 17, 2020 | 09:08 PM
  #45  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Prepped the other body mount.
Got a nice tight fit hopefully in the correct spot.

I am wondering since I need the entire trunk and floor pan if it makes sense to test fit/ mount the pieces to the new frame before welding in place.



Old Jun 26, 2020 | 06:12 AM
  #46  
JOHNNYOLDS442's Avatar
Olds Specialist LOL
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,223
From: TUCSON
All the photos you are taking is awesome!
great work. Is this a 350 car?
Also is that where the factory speakers go behind the seat? thats cool was wondering where mine went.



QUOTE=tkcutlass;1255927]Had a little time this weekend waiting for the load lever to arrive.
Pulled the old speakers and the pump and pistons for the folding top.










[/QUOTE]

Last edited by JOHNNYOLDS442; Jun 26, 2020 at 06:22 AM.
Old Jun 26, 2020 | 06:49 AM
  #47  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Is this a 350 car?
The original engine is 350 w 2 bbl (under workbench)
The replacement was a 350 4 BBL
Certainly, the 6 x 9 holes work nicely for the speakers. I could not tell you if they were used for factory speakers (perhaps others can chime in)

I am re-evaluating whether to continue based on all the rot. floorboard, trunk pan aren't enough, there is rot up and along the sides in the back seats, ( not sure they make replacement panels for those areas)
Old Jun 26, 2020 | 10:12 AM
  #48  
mrolds69's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,907
From: Toytown, MA
I think it's a cost vs time thing. I know the car has sentimental value. If you have a lot of time and skills, but not a lot of $, I'd say go for it. But...if you have the $ to buy another, in better shape, I'd do that. But that's me, you have to decide yourself. Rust is just the worst, most expensive, and time consuming stuff to repair.
Old Jun 29, 2020 | 08:41 AM
  #49  
scrappie's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,446
From: eastern MA
It will cost you more to fix all that rust than it will to buy another car.
Old Jun 29, 2020 | 10:32 AM
  #50  
JOHNNYOLDS442's Avatar
Olds Specialist LOL
 
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 2,223
From: TUCSON
Well So the project is not a total loss find another convertible and make one out of two
Old Jul 7, 2020 | 08:24 PM
  #51  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Spent a couple of weeks looking for a donor.
My buddy has a line on a car of my dreams just trying to get the guy to part with it is a task.

So in the meantime I am continuing the tear down.

Pulled the heater box and passenger side vent

Instructions say remove grill Need to pry the grill out from the edge little tabs hold it in place








Nice place for a mouse nest









Only minor damage to upper thin edging

strange made in Canada
Old Jul 10, 2020 | 07:20 AM
  #52  
Eddie Hansen's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,515
From: South River, New Jersey
wow

Wow, I know it has been said but was this car ever under water or in a flood, that really is some rust your dealing with, maybe it just looks worse than it is, but surfaces seem awfully rusty. You have gumption my friend I do hope that donor car comes your way... in the meantime nice work!! the mice were having a field day.
Old Jul 10, 2020 | 09:04 PM
  #53  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Pulled the dash pad following these great instructions
I had two mystery screws, not just one like in the instructions with only one.
More rust more rust more rust.



Even the instruments are full pf rust
















Old Jul 14, 2020 | 10:14 AM
  #54  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Thank you gremlins! I was going to post this picture to ask for advice on removing a stripped bolt on the intake.
I tried several tools last with no luck?

went to the garage and tried a new bolt extractor hmmm do i need to go smaller is it just spinning over the stripped bolt?
no finger tight spun right out strange

Magic The gremlins got it loose
Old Jul 14, 2020 | 08:02 PM
  #55  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Bit the bullet and welded up the body mount washers.

One not too bad the other ewwww heavy use of grinder required











Old Sep 2, 2020 | 05:51 PM
  #56  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Finally got everything worked out so I can start sandblasting.

1 60 lb bag gone already to do maybe 10%
Hopefully, I can tweak a few settings.

been raining/misting certainly not ideal for blasting but maybe kept the dust down.
We will see tomorrow in the sun.






1 60 lb bag to get this far

Old Sep 5, 2020 | 06:34 AM
  #57  
scrappie's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 3,446
From: eastern MA
Rain or mist will most definitely cause flash rust and possibly clog blaster if it media gets wet.
Old Sep 6, 2020 | 05:54 PM
  #58  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Progress .... 2 more bags in and used a tarp to reclaim some.
Need a few more bags to finish off.









Old Sep 7, 2020 | 05:55 PM
  #59  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
More blasting ..... getting close.

The flash rust is close behind.



Old Oct 3, 2020 | 08:15 PM
  #60  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Finally got the frame blasted and rust encapsulated














Old Oct 4, 2020 | 04:22 PM
  #61  
Jeffs71's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 89
From: NY
Wow your frame cleaned up fantastic !
Hopefully your donor car isn't as rusty throughout , but your keeping one alive which is all that matters

Old Oct 5, 2020 | 07:58 AM
  #62  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Topcoat came out pretty nice IMHO
Nice to be able to start building instead of tearing down.

















Old Oct 5, 2020 | 08:10 AM
  #63  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT


















Old Oct 19, 2020 | 11:01 AM
  #64  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Added some wheels to my rotisserie adapters got things rolling

Can move the frame with two fingers now

Old Oct 22, 2020 | 06:48 AM
  #65  
Greg Rogers's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,584
From: Harrison, Michigan
Wow, wow and wow!! Is that car RUSTY!!! Just looked thru your entire thread so far and I have never tried to persuade someone not to restore a car but I am about to... Your frame from the Chevelle looks great, but everything else is unbelievable! Where was that car parked for years? It looks like the 72 parts car Cutlass that sat out in the mud on my property for 20 years. I used to store nice parts inside it thinking that it would be good dry storage until I found the good clean parts were getting ruined inside it. It was like putting parts in a with a indoor swimming pool- super high humidity and heat. I figured afterwards that the car in the sun got really hot inside like a steam bath. When I moved I dragged it out and found it looked like your 70. Anyway I am glad to see you haven't spent loads of cash buying parts as some people do. I would run on this one. You can always sell the buckets and console,etc. You now have a super nice frame you can use for a better body. Believe me I am not trying to be a know it all, but how many years and dollars do you plan to devote to a standard Cutlass convertible??? Run Forrest Run!!
Old Nov 6, 2020 | 03:13 PM
  #66  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Found another body .... far from perfect but much better than old red.
Sorry old red your out (for now) make room for ebony.









Old Nov 24, 2020 | 09:46 PM
  #67  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
The body is off the frame and onto the rotisserie.
Interesting experience now I know why an old-timer asked if I needed a second hoist.
My son and I ended up being the second.
















Old Nov 25, 2020 | 04:20 AM
  #68  
Greg Rogers's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,584
From: Harrison, Michigan
That is really good! You have made lots of progress Is the frame good on this one? Looks OK in pics. Did you make those supports that are spanning the doors? They look really neat- are they adjustable? Keep up the good work, I'm following ya!
Old Nov 25, 2020 | 07:03 AM
  #69  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Originally Posted by Greg Rogers
That is really good! You have made lots of progress Is the frame good on this one? Looks OK in pics. Did you make those supports that are spanning the doors? They look really neat- are they adjustable? Keep up the good work, I'm following ya!
The frame is in decent condition but several body mount holes will need to be repaired.
Looks like it has the original ball joints (unless someone riveted in new ones)
The door bars are adjustable and come with the rotisserie.

https://www.derekweaver.com/rodders-...to-rotisserie/

Thanks for reading
Old Nov 26, 2020 | 04:02 PM
  #70  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Looks like whoever put the floor in didn't do much (or anything ) underneath.
I started a little trimming and I am thinking a bunch of plug welds and seam sealer is



in order.
Old Nov 28, 2020 | 06:06 PM
  #71  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Started to blast the body, got it pressure washed, and got 10 minutes into blasting and the weather turned brought the beast back in.
A buddy showed up and we got into the quarter panels with about 20lbs of bondo removed we can see what's in store.
The quarters probably should be replaced but we may see what we can do to repair them.



10lbs of bondo


another 10









Old Nov 29, 2020 | 06:13 AM
  #72  
Greg Rogers's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,584
From: Harrison, Michigan
Good job, coming along!
Old Nov 29, 2020 | 06:25 PM
  #73  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Nice day for some blasting too bad the day was so short.

Got a start but gonna need a lot more time.





Old Dec 2, 2020 | 07:09 AM
  #74  
Jeffs71's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2015
Posts: 89
From: NY
Looks like a much better body car ! The quarters don't look seriously rotted away, more smal patches ..keepp up good work
Old Dec 5, 2020 | 07:06 AM
  #75  
Mr Gadgets's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 72
From: Holland, Mi.
Nice project!! Lots of work. I have to give you credit on taking on this project, but you will be very satisfied in the end!! Keep at it, looking great.

One question, you showed a product from Eastwood for inside frame coating. I am wondering how that worked for you. Is it perhaps a very thin product that soaks into the rust to protect it? I have come across a product call RP-342 that is very thin and seems to soak in, leaves a solid coating. I am considering using it instead of the Eastwood paint I purchased a few years ago.
How did that product seem to work for you on the internal rust in the frame??

Thanks!
Keep up the good work! Another one saved!!
Old Dec 6, 2020 | 06:59 PM
  #76  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Originally Posted by Mr Gadgets
Nice project!! Lots of work. I have to give you credit on taking on this project, but you will be very satisfied in the end!! Keep at it, looking great.

One question, you showed a product from Eastwood for inside frame coating. I am wondering how that worked for you. Is it perhaps a very thin product that soaks into the rust to protect it? I have come across a product call RP-342 that is very thin and seems to soak in, leaves a solid coating. I am considering using it instead of the Eastwood paint I purchased a few years ago.
How did that product seem to work for you on the internal rust in the frame??

Thanks!
Keep up the good work! Another one saved!!
I used
​​​​​​https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-in...z-aerosol.html


Getting close to six months since I coated it, you prompted me to take a look. It appears I missed a couple of spots.





Old Dec 6, 2020 | 09:34 PM
  #77  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Got most of the rear stripped, and found another 10 lbs mud in the tail panel.








couple lbs of mud here


say cheese


Old Dec 27, 2020 | 06:52 PM
  #78  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Needed more room in the shop stacking the frames and sliding the engine running stand under the frame cleared up a lot of room.

Old Jan 10, 2021 | 06:56 PM
  #79  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Cleaned up the inside and hit with rust converter




Old Jan 10, 2021 | 07:06 PM
  #80  
tkcutlass's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2020
Posts: 1,279
From: CT
Started repairing the cowling














couple more critical cuts need to be made


Looks like the underneath needs patching as well



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:22 PM.