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A little back story to this car. Tim Murphy had told me about a 69 W31 was and of course I was very intrigued. I reached out to Bill, the owner, on this website through a private message about 2 years ago about the 31. The conversation lead us to this 69 Hurst Olds, it’s number 318, original paint and original stripe car. It’s a numbers matching non A/C. Very cool car,
very cool story. Bill had asked me if I would help him with the body work and getting the chassis done. Without hesitation I jumped at the opportunity to help him out. So my brother James and I will be getting this car ready for paint and restoring the chassis back to original. First thing we’re gonna do is document all the dimensions of the stripes and try to make templates. Here’s some pics, I can’t wait to get started.
Yep, Bill has a few of them..
Glad to see it's getting back out there, document it up nice, take a ton of pics!
The last pic it great as it shows what I've seen a few restored cars get wrong.
The rear of the roof stripe is what you can call ever so slightly 'concave' as it follows the rear roof line, good stuff!
Last edited by 1969Hurst; Mar 12, 2026 at 08:14 PM.
Interestingly it has the "X" under the scoop. Mine does not have that. I don't know what cutoff point they added the "X" under there. Supposedly for more support as most sag on the top.
Plus, those "H/O 455" decals I don't think will ever be replicated correctly. I love the "brassy gold" look they have, but they're on some sort of weird material and screen printed with that golden hue outlined in black. Stuff seems more like a paint. Many years ago, I had a number peeling on mine and had a big decal making company look into it to see if it could be replicated, but sadly, while it was outside possible, the entry cost was way to high to make it feasible, at least for this guy. They never even sent me back the rest of that number I sent them. Those A-holes. I even forgot who it was now.
Interestingly it has the "X" under the scoop. Mine does not have that. I don't know what cutoff point they added the "X" under there. Supposedly for more support as most sag on the top.
Plus, those "H/O 455" decals I don't think will ever be replicated correctly. I love the "brassy gold" look they have, but they're on some sort of weird material and screen printed with that golden hue outlined in black. Stuff seems more like a paint. Many years ago, I had a number peeling on mine and had a big decal making company look into it to see if it could be replicated, but sadly, while it was outside possible, the entry cost was way to high to make it feasible, at least for this guy. They never even sent me back the rest of that number I sent them. Those A-holes. I even forgot who it was now.
As a result, were you left with a 45 cubic inch engine?
As a result, were you left with a 45 cubic inch engine?
LOL yeah. Can't remember if it was the 4 or the 5 now...so I might get 10 more cubes out of it if it was the 4.
Yeah, here's a closeup of the original decal. It has some sort of a strange "texture" of sorts to it. It's not smooth like regular vinyl striping. And it's not exactly the same shade as the painted stripes. Or the head rests for that matter.
Damn what a cool find. It’s amazing to me how many rare cars are still hidden away in garages, barns, wherever. I just ran across a guy who had a 1969 amc sc hurst scrambler sitting in his garage the last 35 years. Cool little hot rods.. great cars are still out there…
Tonight I started measuring and documenting the stripes on this car. Im gonna try to use some wax paper to make templates. Here’s a couple pics. The guy who pin stripped this was in a hurry
Met a guy with 2 of these a couple years back.
Dont remember the details, but has had them for decades.
Pretty sure they havent been in the road for just as long.
And only about 30 miles from me.
Templates are a good idea, however, they'll only match to YOUR car, really. I know that's what you want it to do, but every time someone asks me for dimensions, it's always a caveat that they were measurements from MY car. They just taped them up on the fly, and "close" was the name of the game back then. When I measured the top fender stripes on mine one side was 2" and the other was 1-7/8". Some bottom stripes between the wheel wells were more straight across and a tad lower on the door as others were a bit more up the door and bent down a bit on the ends to follow the body break lines. Each car was unique.
Albeit these are 1968 H/O pic's, I was told Demmer used templates for paint on 68's and 69's.
I don't have good info on all the portions where the templates were used, but I'm sure they were fairly consistent in their job.
First pic below you can see an applied left front fender corner template, close up on the pic you can see 'Left Fender' printed on it.
Third pic it looks like they are using that front fender template to base the remaining upper stripe off of.
So I got both fenders patched and stripped to bare metal. I have a few little dents to dolly out but Im gonna wait till I get the doors patched and stripped. That way I can epoxy doors and fenders together and then put the body on the rotisserie.
Passenger and driver doors are sanded to bare metal, patched hole on passenger door tomorrow I’ll patch the driver door. Both doors rotted on the inside part of the door and nothing on the door skin. I thought that was kinda weird. Im shooting to have this baby on the rotisserie next week
Great work.
Those inside door patches are thankless. You spend so much time cutting, trimming, welding and after the resto is done...
no one comments on them and you barely remember having done them.
But it's part of the process.
You're the right man for the job here. Do you know anything about this car's history? It was obviously not babied. It's always interesting hearing about the history of these cars.
I hope the car's owner continues to report on its progress once you give it back to him. I'd like to follow its journey back.
I purchased this 1969 Hurst Olds on June 11, 1974 for $1,495.. (I was 19 years old) First of four 1969 Hurst Olds I have owned. (Still have 3 and the complete engine from the 4th) I was a Pontiac guy and looking for a 1969 Pontiac GTO Judge 4-speed car and wasn't able to find one.. Dennis Kimble was selling this car that his brother Chris purchased new and had given him because of a debt he owed. The car is not listed in Demmer paperwork and is estimated it would be Demmer number 792 area. I have always called this car Ho-318 because that is the Dash Plaque number assigned to Chris Kimble. ( Car is data plate date 05C ) I have all original H/O matching number parts exept the transmission which was stolen from a locked storage garage along with 40 years of junk yard collecting of parts. I have all documentaion for this car except for Demmer stuff including, Original window sticker, hurst pricing card, protecto plate, dash plaque, warranty with selling dealer etc. Vin:392757 in case anyone out there has my OH transmission. I was laid off from the City of Toledo and had another 69 H/O to drive so I was going to do a frame off restoration on the car in early 1980's. I stripped the car down by myself and rented a Leroy compressor and sand blasted alot of the car. Of course after I had the car all apart the City called me back to work. This car was raced on streed from 1974 until early 1980's when I tore it down to do a frame off restoration. Ran Edlebrock o4B and Holley 850 double pumper. Was mechanic and tuned it weekly so it ran it's best all the time. Took OAI upper off and put larger air filter in cleaner and turned lid over with longer wing nut stud. I blew 2 engines but didn't hurt block.What happened was water came in scoop and hydrolocked the engine. I also had extra push rods and bridges with tools in glove box because it liked to bend pushrods and break trunion bridges.(Kept car in Drive racing it) I met Tim Murphy and Craig Foster when they came up to check out my W31. (Sold the W31 to Alain) Tim told Nick about my cars and we hooked up so he could check out my collection. Been way too long for this car to be apart and he agreed to help me get it back together. There is probally more but this is pretty much the story of how I became into Oldsmobiles. I will probally need a parts car or deep pockets to get all the small parts missing from this car now but it is on its way to come back.
Last edited by MGBill; Apr 11, 2026 at 10:44 AM.
Reason: wrong year purchase date
Ok so we got the hurst on the rotisserie and tomorrow it’s going to the blast shop, then we ll start some patching. Going through the car its really solid, compared to the other projects I posted on this site. Definitely the nicest project yet.
