Hark442

The next Oldsmobile project has arrivided! It is a 1964 Cutlass Convertible! The car has had a frame off! Just never got it all back together. - I guess thats my job!

New everything. Going to be absolutely gorgeous when done! White with Red Interior.

I'll be looking for a few things: Bumpers, I have a set but wondering who might have some or who should work on these.... Bumper boyz???

Also need bottom trim below the doors. I need new wheel well chrome as well. Can anyone help?

I love the convertible and will have until spring to get it running!

Hark442

Some more pics

Hark442

More pictures

ent72olds

Congrats on a nice find! Looks mint underneath!

Hark442

Car is absolutely mint underneath. Brand new everything! The engine compartment is mint as well. Just need to get the dust off. I'm pretty psyched about this thing! Hope my wife is

Hark442

Here is a picture of the cowl tag. Anyone want to decode it?

citcapp

Congrats on the new toy. Have fun finding parts

therobski

Man what a find. I am almost ready to find another "64 post" after seeing that car. I just don't know if I can bring my sweet baby back without breaking the bank.....

CUT-N-UP

Hello Sir, nice ride. I have the cowl tag information for you. The reference book is Car & Parts Magazine Catalog of American Car ID Numbers 1960-1969. I purchased it from half priced books here in Columbus Ohio. Here goes nothing.

You have a 1964 Cutlass convertible 64- 3267 *option 442 *Body-BF Assembly plant in Freemont, California. *Production Number-1055 *Trim – F85 Deluxe Trim Red*Paint Code- C1 Provincial White*.

This is all I can decipher at the present, there are engine details that I could provide but the cowl doesn’t go into further detail. I hope this helps.The engine codes for this model year are as follows:

Cutlass Engine Codes

TG …………..v8…………………..330 cid………………290Hp………………..Comp Ratio 10.25:1……4bc
TH …………..v8…………………..330 cid………………NA……………………….Comp Ratio 8.3:1………..4bc
*……………….v8……………………330 cid………………310Hp………………..Comp Ratio 10.25:1……4bc

*442 Option

gearheads78

Wow looks like they could see the goal line when they gave up. Usually those type of deals are a lot more apart when they come up for sale. Nice find.

mmurphy77

Awesome car!!! Keep the pics coming during your progress. Love the Red gut! Congratulations!

Aron Nance

Very, very nice! And by the way, Welcome to CO!

wmachine

Unfortunately, that reference book is not a good source of information.
1. I'm not clear on what you're referring to, but there is absolutely no reference to an "option 442" on that data plate.
2. That is 1065, not 1055, and that is the *body* sequence number at Fremont.
3. The Trim (965) is the interior. Red, yes, but not "F85 Deluxe"

5C means built 3rd week of May '65.
A after the 1C means black wheels, implying that it came with some type of full wheel covers.
(I'll have to dig up the info on A49 and B70 codes)
388 is the Manifest number (as found on the Build Sheet)

olds4life

great find and welcome to the 64 club. my favorite body still.

Oldsguy

That wad of paper towel in the air snorkel is a good idea to keep critters out.

Hark442

I do have the original wheels and hubcaps! Pretty rare I guess. Car is great! Guy ran out of motivation I guess! I have plenty of motivation

Truly is a frame off! Car is mint. Will take my time trying to get it just right!

Thanks for all the kind words. Will try and scan some of the photos of the frame off!

Hark

Swede64

I´ve been searching for the wheel well moldings for a long time. Some show up on ebay now and then but usually go for very high prices. Rocker moldings are hard to find too, mine are decent so i´ll try to restore them.
Good luck on the project. Looks real nice.

1969w3155

A49 is "seat belts deluxe front" and B70 is "instrument panel, safety padded". I would be leary of The Bumper Boyz, as a '65 442 owner I talked to, pointed out flaking chrome the size of a quarter on his rear bumper that they did. A Red Wings fan? you in Michigan? Abdelkader is from my town.

nonhog

Yet to try this but a local Musclecar parts dealer said the Chevelle (66)
lower rocker moulding will work in place of a 64 Cutlass rocker.
The Malibu is not ribbed like the SS396.
FWIW

Hark442

I'm in Lansing. I'm a huge Michigan fan living in Spartann country. I love the Wings and the Tigers hoping for a decent Lions year as well. They should be 3-1 right now!

Have owned tons of Oldsmobiles!

have a 1970 Cutlass S
and a 1970 Vista Cruiser
along with this 1964

Hope to meet ya someday

Hark442

The exhaust is original. He said he found it a dealership in Northern Michigan. It is NOS

1badolds

nice car. i have a 64 f85 convertible white with a white top and black gut. i have been trying to finish it for the last 7 years and am getting close. Im the 2nd owner of mine and it is 100% original. I thought about selling it a few time but i can never go through with it

craftsmen22

congrats on the nice find. Cutlass convertibles are real head turners, don't they? Good luck on finding the missing parts.

Othaiii

Very nice, any updates? I'm just starting a 64 restoration. As far as Rocker Panel chrome and wheel well trim, try Frank at Billions and Trillions,
http://www.billionsandtrillionsinc.com/
He's expensive and a little wacky, but he came through for me with the wheel well trim. It did take about 6 weeks. He's an interesting guy.

Personally, I do not like bumper boyz. I know a few folks that have been very disappointed as the plating started to fail after a year. But I do not have any first hand experience. I'm using a guy down in Atlanta to staighten and plate mine.

Good luck and keep in touch. The thread for my build is in this forum, just started it today. Maybe you can answer my question about the plastic tabs in the wheels.

Randy

Hark442

Well can you believe my luck!! I woke up this morning to see on the front page of the paper that the plater that had every piece of side trim, Rocker trim, and both bumpers to my 1964 convertible .......BURNED TO THE GROUND! Crap What am I going to do!!!!!?????!!!!!!

Complete Coverage: Lansing Township Fire
Adams Plating owner in serious condition in U-M burn unit

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/
Monday fire coverage story Photos: Adams Plating fire Video: Adams Plating Fire

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/a...EWS01/12280330

I had all my trim and bumpers there. No I'm lookingl for this stuff

All Side Trim - Both sides
Rocker trim - Both sides
Both Bumpers -

I hope that he had insurance. Pretty sure a business like that does. The owner is on Life support. This will take months or years to get a settlement.

Was on pace for a Spring finish, Interior parts and all were being accumulated and readied for completion.

If you have any oth these parts or know womeone who has any of this stuff please help me get this going again.

Thanks

Doug

Jamesbo

Ouch,

Keep us posted of how things unravel. That just makes me sick to my stomach for you and I'm sure many others.

craftsmen22

What a shi..., it's so hard to find all these parts, it really hurts me, too. But since my philosophy is to see the good side, we are all glad that you were not in the building.

Good luck in finding the right parts,

Tom

Othaiii

Glad you are all right, Could have been much worse for you. As far as the parts, here's a couple of guys that may have what you need or know where to get it.

Frank at Billions and Trillions http://www.billionsandtrillionsinc.com/

Larry at ljshell@***.net

Mark at jmsain@collectiblecarparts.com or jmsain@aol.com

If you contact Larry or Mark, tell em that I sent you there because I was very happy with what I received from them. If I can think of any others, I'll let you know. Good luck.

Geez, I hope the owner makes it.

Hark442

Thankyou for the contacts! Have talked to two out of the three. I think that I will have all the parts rounded up here shortly. But at a cost

The car is worth ith though! It will be beautiful.

The seat covers and door panels arrived yesterday from Legendary and are gorgeous!

Off to the auto trim shop to drop them off

Othaiii

Did Legendary do a complete build on the door panels, minus the chrome trim and emblem? Did they install the top piece and inner felts? It sounds like they came out nice. I have used Legendary for all of my interior soft trim, they are expensive, but the quality is great.

Hark442

Legendary did a great job as usual. The door panels are exactly what you said minus the emblem and chrome strips. The seat covers are flat out gorgeous!

First time I have used them (prices) but I will ONLY use them after seeing this stuff! WOW!

Hark442

Car is at the shop. The goal will be to get it running. It has never had fluids in it even. Should be interesting. Then it is off to the interior shop. The goal will be to make it to Oldsmobile nationals next summer.

Hark442

Car is now running! The lights all work, The top goes up and down! runs strong! Sounds good! It has some leaking, seeping from the intake manifold. Will fix that then it is off to the interior shop by the first week in January! I am slowly gathering some needed parts. I will try and get some shots of underneath the car while it is on the hoist! This is really exciting!

stan 65 cutlass

great car, what happened with chrome shop, did you get compensated?

Hark442

I was never compensated for my parts! I got the runaround and the EPA took over their insurance. My insurance company would not back my parts because the car is not insured. (It isn't even running, at the time) Oh well not enough money to go after them and ended up with some nicer parts than I gave them. I have just let it go, which is hard for me!

J-(Chicago)

Happy about the car, sad about the parts.

Keep on going!!

Hark442

WHAT FUN! I drove the car today! No top, No seats! On a Crate

She now runs stops and the electricals all work! Yah! Good thing I only live about a mile from the shop because darn it's cold here

Hark442

The car now has a top and interior! it is unbelievable! PICTURES COMING. I pick it up wednesday.

Hark442

I am ammazed at the quality of legendary interiors. The car is back at home! Check out the Pictures! Time to button this thing up!

Hark442

Love this car!