Do any of you H/O guys know if Oldsmobile (or Hurst) relocated the the build sheets after the Hurst mods were completed? I'm familier with the usual locations for the other "regular" cars from the Lancing factory (under drivers seat, under back seats, etc...), but was wondering if the H/O's were unique?

 

From what I'm told, you won't find a build sheet in the Lansing-built cars because they had policy in place to dispose of the build sheet and not hide it in the car as most other plants did.

 

After 40 years of ownership, I just found the original build sheet of my Lansing built '70 W30 inside the back seat = proof positive of the car's authenticity. They do exist in some cars.

Randy

 

rand5204: copy and post a pic of it here.

 

Randy, no offence intended, but do you know the difference between a build sheet and a broadcast card? I think you've most likely found a broadcast card. Does it look like this?


or THIS?



I think we're both thinking the same thing. But on the other hand if he's actually got a true M build sheet, I also wanna see it!

 

Certainly true for 68-69 cars but 70-72 build sheets seem to be found with more regularity

 

Actually, I did know the difference but wasn't careful enough in my nomenclature. You are correct, what i found is the broadcast card. The car is in storage and I will not be around it for another couple of weeks. I will post pics as soon as I can.

Randy

 

Nope, so far there have been zero Lansing build sheets found for any 64-72 car. ZERO. Not one. Other plants, yes. Linden, Fremont, and Arlington sheets exist, but no Lansing sheets.

I guess the word sheet is the hangup, because many people confuse build sheet with broadcast card.

 

Please show me a 1970 Lansing Build Sheet. Not a Broadcast Card, but a Build Sheet. Or a '71 or '72 for that matter.
I'll believe it when I see it.
You can email me at Kurt.Shubert@wildaboutcars.com

 

Ok, so I'm wrong. Like I always say, I know alot more about 68-69's than other years.

 

The rumor or tales of found Lansing build sheets is getting close to the SMW 403 myth. Fact is they did exist, but were disposed of before the cars left the assembly plant. They were not needed anymore, only used to build the car. Not for future restorers to discuss and use to make their cars worth more.

 

Good info, guys. I've had my '72 Hurst for 30 years so my knowledge is limited to the '72 H/O's, which were plucked from the Cutlass Supreme line in Lansing and trucked to Hurst for the final assembly. I'm wondering if the build sheets could of stayed with those perticular cars. From what I read here, probably not. Regardless, I'm going to replace the carpet and seat covers in my car soon, and will post pics of the broadcast and/or build sheets if I get lucky. The only sheets I'll probably find in my car will be rolling papers! Thanks for the replies guys.

 

The chances are slim to none. The car would have been built and out the door (completed unit) and the build sheet removed. Hurst would then accept delivery of the cars and modify them to suit their needs. One of the few things that wasn't modified was the rear seat, which is where you found your broadcast card. FYI, it would not be uncommon to find another 1 or 2 somewhere in the car.

Best of luck with your project. Fill us in with details and pics as you go.

 

Allan, you got Randy and I mixed up. I have not found a broadcast card in my Hurst (yet). No biggie (hum, on the other hand, I wouldn't mind if the community thinks I own a '70 W/30 like Randy's). I'll be digging into my interior in a few weeks. Again, good info by all.

 

Actually, my comment was to you. It was in regards to the cars being plucked from the Assembly line. If you meant that they were taken directly from inventory after leaving the Assembly line, I withdraw my comment. To my knowledge, every car that was sent to Hurst for modification was a completed car to start with. Sorry to hear you haven't found at least a broadcast card. Hope it shows up somewhere....Here's an interesting pdf you probably already know about - re: numbers and such http://www.hurstolds.com/numbers/numbers_10.pdf I'm not sure, but I get the impression that all the 72 HO's were built in April of 72? If that's true, I came that close to having one!!

 

Thanks for the numbers info. Iv'e never seen that pdf before...very cool. While my car is not a W/30, it has the W45 stamped on the cowl tag. I believe you are correct about the cars being built in April (mine is O4D). Olds and Hurst had an aggressive advertising blitz leading up to the Indy 500.

 

love to see that build sheet on the w30, wow your lucky, lansing build sheet.

 

L69
I have been corrected in that what I have is the "Broadcast Card" not a build sheet. I will get pictures of it next weekend and post them

Randy

 

What does the "Build Sheet" look like?

 

Here's a H/O build sheet.

 

If thats the
Build Sheet, What does the Broadcast Card look like?

 

Allan posted a broadcast card in his post of 4/13/12.

- Eric

 

Dan, that is the first semblance of a Lansing Build Sheet that I have ever seen. It is not the "regular" format Build Sheet as existed in '69, nor is it the Fisher Body Broadcast Card though the form is similarly structured. Do you know where it came from? A H/O, I know, but was is originally found in the car?

 

I have both of the documents that are shown in the above messages for my car.

 

This is awesome! I've never seen one like that!

 

I just want to know is a broadcast card worth anything?

 

Can you be more specific? There are 3 different documents shown. Can you show yours?

 

Any documentation is worth something.

 

I have this one

 

And the top one from this post

 

So, these larger sheets, Gator has one for his '69, what would they be called? Per the 3 below, the 1st one was posted earlier I have, was from a 1969 H/O owned by Ed Nunez in Cali I believe, not sure where it was found.

The second one below, is from a buddy of mine Chuck with a 1969 H/O and it was found under the front seat carpeting.

The last one is from my 1967 Toronado, I found folded in my glovebox with the protecto place. Person I bought the car from said and it was saved by the original owner who was an Olds salesman so possibly he came about it in good shape, I have no idea if that is true.

They all have 'Oldsmobile Production Code' at the top on them, they are bigger than the broadcast card but not the typical build sheet.

 

Body broadcast sheets?? Ive seen these before,



Chevelle sheets that looks like the Lansing sheets

http://www.chevellestuff.net/1964/bs.htm

 

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Great documents you have there I am stoked to see you have all of them in a binder too

 

Hope you don't mind, I copied those documents into an efile for future references. Thanks so much for sharing them.
I notice a similarity on both the 1969 and 1969 Production Code sheets. They are both labelled "B" codes. What significance is that?

 

So what are they officially called????

 

"The Holy Grail"
That would be what I call them!
"Priceless"
"Paper Gold"

TAKE YOUR PICK------GREAT FIND!!!!!!!!!!

 

x2!!

 

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It's amazing how much like an original window sticker that looks like....uber cool documentation.