:) is all i am going to say... THEN :(

Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:32 PM
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:) is all i am going to say... THEN :(

So i decided after driving the hurst today to do a donut in the cul de sac (Thanks Jamesbo) and obviously i took a video of it. So thats the . Now for the she wont start idk if i jostled something loose (didnt seem like it) or what. letting her cooldown in the garage (which i had to push up with my caprice, thank god for the push bars lol). Well anyways ENJOY and i hope you like lol



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoBr0j5UNT4

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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I like the video Nice POWER Does it just crank or when you turn the key with no sign of life? Tom
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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it clunks lol. and it was awesome too the cloud stayed in the air for about an hour or 2 and it smelled like a drag strip lol IT WAS AMAZING
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:55 PM
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A Hurst with no posi?
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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thanks gear i actually laughed on that one, i couldnt resist it and there may or may not have been a girl i was trying to impress (seems the bottom of all problems)
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 05:58 PM
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i am pretty sure it does (has the original rear end as far as i know and when the rear is up and you spin the one tire the other one catches like it should)

CORRECTION: I should assume it does lol, finding out a lot of things on this car arent original!!! but still loving it none the less

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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As my Dad woud say;
You bought it,
you broke it,
YOU FIX IT!!!
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:21 PM
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hey i have no problem with fixing it lol. ask anyone who has seen my other forum threads thats all i do on this lol. just trying to figure out whats wrong with this one. will try to get a vid posted of the noise in a few to get an idea from you guys
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Well, they were designed to have fun with. Hopefully whatever is wrong is no big deal.
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:52 PM
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Picture says it all
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 06:57 PM
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uploading video on youtube since site doesnt like em lol
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:04 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvq0cd_AQxg

sound of the clukning
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:20 PM
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put a wrench on the front crank bolt or A big socket see if you can turn it over by hand I once sheered all the bolts off a fly wheel when doing the same thing
with a 4 speed had it all wound up power shifted to second and clangity clang clang Very easy to over rev doing silly thing while showing off for split tail.

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Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:23 PM
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grrrr that doesnt sound like fun... it was funny cause it ran fine when i let it sit then i turned it off and then went to start it up again and nothing
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:26 PM
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so if i can turn it is that good or bad? just geting info b4hand lol
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:28 PM
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Sounds like you blew it up and its locked up to me. Can you turn it over by hand with a wrench? Donuts = oil slung up away from the pickup = locked up motors with ugly pictures of the insides posted at a later date. I hope I am wrong but it does not sound good.
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:29 PM
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lol well i was talking about rebuilding it so.....

YAY ME!!!!!
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:36 PM
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just so i dont mess this up anymore how do i hand crank it, tried to look it up but no bueno
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:48 PM
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A long braker bar on the crank bolt. If you pull the plugs it will make it easier. Also look at each plug for any mechanical damage and make sure you don't see any coolant come out any plug holes.
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:51 PM
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what size socket do i use? or will the breaker bar fit right in the hole? in case you havent noticed novice on this stuff lol
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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what does the oil look like ? Will need a socket and its on the balancer. will have to go thru pullys so will need a deep or extension too.
Old Jan 6, 2011 | 07:54 PM
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ok so it sounds like i need a checklist here to check out, so far its;

Spark plugs
Oil
Hand crank to see if it turns easy

Anything else i am missing? will post pics of all this stuff tomorrow. too dark outside right now and kinda tired of messing with her tonight lol
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 02:22 AM
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It sounds like starter heat soak or a bad or low battery or loose wiring connection?
If it's heat soak the car should start a few hours later or in the morning after it cools down.
Check the battery charge and electrical connections and ground straps if that doesn't work. See if the starter came loose and isn't engaging the flywheel correctly.
If it isn't that the advice to check to see if the engine turns is good, then go from there if it moves. I can grab the belts and move mine, a socket on the balancer bolt works a lot better. I hate to say this but If you spun a bearing or did some other internal damage it could of seized up the engine after you shut it off. It did have oil presure and it was up to level I take it? That spinning around could of forced the oil away from the pump pick up and...lets just hope the engine turns over and it's the battery or something with the starter.
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 05:13 AM
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It is most likely the starter. Remove starter and secure it then jump it with cables from a know good battery.
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 05:22 AM
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Big honkin' socket (about 1" or bigger) on a 1/2" ratchet or breaker bar.
Put that on the bolt that holds the crank pulley. Now pretend you are tightening the bolt and turn the thing clockwise. It should turn with some effort. More effort if the plugs stay in. If standing on it will not turn it, then it is possibly locked.
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 05:24 AM
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Sicky,

I hope it's the starter too.

X 2 on all the above. You might also try.

Get a tire iron and a buddy.Get your buddy to try to start it while you're under it banging the tire iron on the starter.

BE SURE IT'S IN PARK

Bye the bye It's "Cul de sac" and there are 43,560 square feet in an acre. [Real-estate jargon]
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 05:34 AM
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You can see the motor try to turn. Thats why I don't think its the starter but like I said I hope I am wrong. "
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 05:39 AM
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yeah i think it might be the motor as well... you can see in the video that the alternator turns slightly but only slightly. but i am def starting with the cheapest problem first. Guess this is one of those lessons learned most def, and glad i got video lol
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 05:48 AM
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Great vid

I agree, check your battery, cables & starter 1st, lots of things can get jostled when going fast in a circle. It happens in my mind all the time, but in that case, I just sit down, close my eyes, take a couple deep breaths, and slowly stand up again.

I once took a long trip in my Olds, and when I came back, and jumped in to go to work the next morning, it made the same noises yours did (or lack of noises) It wound up being a cut cable from somewhere along the road home. Here's hoping that's it. Good luck!
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:21 AM
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The socket to turn the crank of my 455 is 1.1/8 its a big socket i dont know what olds 350s take. but chevy small blocks take a 5/8 socket. and it shouldnt turn really easy. but it shouldnt take all ur muscle to turn it.
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:24 AM
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so i need to pick up one of those sizes then. cause when i vaguely attempted the biggest socket i had wouldnt fit. Thanks for the info
Old Jan 7, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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so i need to pick up one of those sizes then. cause when i vaguely attempted the biggest socket i had wouldnt fit. Thanks for the info
i just hope u didnt drop a valve and its laying on top of the piston. its looks to me like it wanst to move but something is stoping it.

have u tried to jump it and give the battery more power? incase it is ur starter.

also when u do turn ur crank over by hand. if it does turn over turn it 180 degrees one way then 180 the other.
Old Jan 8, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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tried to hand crank the engine and NO BUENO on that one... ordering an engine mount hopefully this weekend and finding out whats wrong and doing to rebuild i was going to wait on lol
Old Jan 8, 2011 | 07:19 PM
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Hey Sicky,
I hope your engine is OK. You going to pull the whole thing?
Old Jan 9, 2011 | 01:48 AM
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.. ordering an engine mount hopefully this weekend
Mind if I ask WHY?
Old Jan 9, 2011 | 03:35 AM
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Mind if I ask WHY?
i think he is talking about an engine stand.
Old Jan 9, 2011 | 04:36 AM
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Old Jan 9, 2011 | 05:12 AM
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Yeah I meant engine stand lol.
Old Jan 9, 2011 | 06:17 AM
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Dang - sorry to hear about the bad news.
Guess I will refrain from doing donuts in my cars...
Let us know what you find out once it is apart.
Best of luck!

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