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Old May 27, 2013 | 04:43 AM
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strange wires?

Pls have a look at the attached pics and see if you can figure where they should go? Hopefully the pics are clear enough.
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Old May 27, 2013 | 04:44 AM
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Pls have a look at the attached pics and see if you can figure where they should go? Hopefully the pics are clear enough.
One wire green the other wrapped in black tape and has a fuse wedged into it.

Anybody recognize? it's a 455 if that helps.
Old May 27, 2013 | 05:20 AM
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That connector is normally mounted to a sensor on the passenger side of the T-stat outlet. I believe it's called a TCS switch?? Someone will chime in with the correct name I'm sure. Most people remove them when going to an aftermarket intake. It is not necessary & should cause no issues with your car. That's not a fuse, I think it's a diode?
Old May 27, 2013 | 05:39 AM
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A picture where we could actually see the part in question would be helpful.

Starting in either '71 or '72 there is an A/C pressure safety connection that has a fuse in it as well.

- Eric
Old May 27, 2013 | 06:14 AM
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Eric, if you click on the pic then do a right click and 'save image as' on your computer, you'll then be able to open it up and zoom in to see the wires. I think that diode is probably a more correct term for what we can see.

Thx,

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Old May 27, 2013 | 06:31 AM
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I'll guess that the diode equipped 2-banger went on the TCS [Trans Controlled Spark] thermal/ electrical/ vacuum switch... which is not present. A solenoid commonly has a diode across the line to allow the energy in the coil a path to dissipate when power is removed- otherwise it can create a voltage spike fed into the car's wiring. [Not sure why the Big ***** solenoid on the starter does NOT need one...]

The single wire no doubt goes [or used to go] to the water temp sender which has no wire on it. It looks like the type that fits "sideways" onto that post on the sender, not in line with the axis of the sender. Probably a w/ vs. w/o gauges thing - I see you have a gauge type sender for oil pressure.

This is just one of many reasons everyone should have their own copy of the Chassis Service Manual.... "What is this? What did it used to do? Can I do w/o it now? How was it supposed to work?" Much is revealed in the CSM.

PS, your PCV grommet is sideways, the flat side is supposed to be the top. It may matter for fitment of the filter assembly.
Old May 27, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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The "diode" on the TCS switch connector is really a 150 Ohm, 5W resistor. Since this solenoid will operate a lot in normal driving, the resistor helps suppress static on AM radios.
Just wrap up this unused connector and tuck it into a safe place.
Old May 27, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 455 Olds 442
Eric, if you click on the pic then do a right click and 'save image as' on your computer, you'll then be able to open it up and zoom in to see the wires.
Sorry, the first picture is about 300 pixels, and the last two are about 800x600.
No zooming possible, at least not any that will make the pictures clearer.

Honestly, I couldn't even see what you were talking about in the picture, but now that I've had another look, I can make out the part, and it's a TCS plug, like the others said - the A/C part is much larger and has a fuse, not a resistor.


Originally Posted by Octania
This is just one of many reasons everyone should have their own copy of the Chassis Service Manual.... "What is this? What did it used to do? Can I do w/o it now? How was it supposed to work?" Much is revealed in the CSM.
Thank you .

- Eric
Old May 27, 2013 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Octania
... [Not sure why the Big ***** solenoid on the starter does NOT need one...]
...
answer:

Originally Posted by Lady72nRob71
The "diode" on the TCS switch connector is really a 150 Ohm, 5W resistor. Since this solenoid will operate a lot in normal driving, the resistor helps suppress static on AM radios.
...
more clearly, since the starter typically operates only once during a driving cycle, and at the very beginning of it, there was no need to shunt the counter-emf/emi someplace(usually to ground). of course, over a long period of time, this "spike" could eventually destroy the contact that controls it(ignition switch "start" contact). you would also need a hefty diode for that mission, and back in the day, they just weren't cheap/small/available enough to justify installing one on every car. the resistor they used in the tcs circuit was far cheaper and more reliable than putting a diode in the circuit.


bill

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