Oil technology is the main reason..using heavy oil to lubricate was the norm.the ls requires a computer...expensive fuel injection..and other assorted parts.Id rather invest old school with forged parts...hyper kinetic pistons..wtf is thst crap?...you guys are brain washed by the new crowd..thats fine..
Im laughing pretty good.

 

Oil technology was not the only reason. Cheap parts went into the sbc. We had a 75 Olds Cutlass from that era, went very high miles. That car is one reason I like the 350 so much. Look how fast the new Mustang, Challenger and Camaro's are. Even the scoffed at 3.5's in the Challenger boosted can run 11's. Why? Technology and cross bolted mains.

 

Nasty 455- Just when I think you couldn't show your ignorance anymore you post a thread like that, Wow!
Good job!!

 

For the 2k fuel injection and a few cpmputer chips cost...Ill be sporting a nice forged power plant with a nice dyers blower sticking through the hood.trick parts like your ls just get you a lighter wallet..I dont buy any new junk from GM...todays car companies are all about greed...not QUALITY products..take that to the bank!

 

Brainwashed? I'm 52, my first car was a 70 Charger R/T with a 440. I prefer my "fun" cars to be old-school carbureted muscle, but just because I like it doesn't make it better. The advantages of modern technology are undeniable. EFI is the best of all worlds; power, reliability, and economy. You can idle smoothly, have good manners, and make 500 hp at 7,000 rpm. What used to be guarded race sectrets (multi-angle back cut valves, split cams, etc) are now commonly used techniques.

 

Another silly post. Please post links to the place you can get an entire blower set-up for an Olds engine for close to $2000. With everything needed, you would be hard-pressed to do it for under $5,000 The total package is going to run $12,000 or more.

 

You'll probably appreciate this then...



I'm not sure what a "forged power plant" is, exactly, or how you get one using cast iron parts, but you clearly have no idea what things cost or how little $2K actually buys.

 

Lo freaking L!!!

 

According to your signature you just buy Japanese bikes instead?

 

Love japanese bikes and cars.

 

Never have to see a check engine light!

 

That's because it's in Japanese. You can't read it anyway!

 

So let me get this straight. You don't like edelbrocks because they don't benefit nothing, you don't like modern technology, How the hell do you post on here with out a computer ? The fact you communicate with thousands of people across the us. and world should tell you how far technology has come and that it is a good thing. You must still have a bomb shelter I assume.

 

Ask any current toyota or Honda owner if they would go back to gm..ford..or chrysler.Search american parts content and see thst camry and accord have more american sourced parts than the mexican cars /parts stamped gm.

 

I.dont mind a company making a profit..they do employ american workers..but spending 2k on a few wires and computer chips...no thanks..map sensor $70...the size of a cracker jack prize made in china for 5 cents?
I'd rather pay a local machinist to modify the factory parts I already own...than buy over priced state of the art tech.

 

And again, another silly post. Do you actually read the things you write? You can't modify 40 year old iron to match current technology. You can take a #5 head and port, raise the floor, weld the dividers, and on and on, and it won't match the performance of a modern aluminum head, despite the cost.

You stated this,
"but spending 2k on a few wires and computer chips..." Do you own a television? Obviously a computer, and your beloved Hondas, guess what, they depend on that to do their job. Your posts make zero sense and are indefensible using logic.

 

What does this have to do with anything? Those same Hondas and Toyotas (fine vehicles, BTW) use the modern technology that you are railing against.

 

Im ranting about the cost and value per dollar spent.I realize regulations dictate the use of aluminum light weight parts.why does everyone just follow the piper? The carb is an extraordinary machine...runs fine if you dont mess with it...so it gets slightly less mpg...your going to have to buy thousands of gallons of fuel to recoup the investment in fi.2k better get me some noticeable hp increase..not just a slight improvement.trouble shooting all the electronics today is silly..computer fsults a sensor...when replaced..faults some other code..one expensive sensor after another...by the way..picked up a olds performer rpm msnifolf for $50 today...want to swap from quadrajet to holley.

 

please view the 2 cylinder heads. the one on the right is Brad Wise design. A little bit different from the GM engineers that designed the factory heads many moons ago. The one on the left I think is rocket racing (not sure) so don't rip me for it. I took this shot at Brad's shop. anyone looking at olds heads should talk to Brad and seriously consider these.

 

check out the head on the right. this is Brad Wise performance heads for sb & bb olds. I think the one on the left is a rocket head. The Wise head just seems to make more sense with the plug location and the efficient looking chamber flow.

 

I don't see no dang blam check engine light on them there heads.

 

oh trust me over there in the tiny hole, it's there

 

Ok I'm one I've had toyotas and Hondas and now drive a ford and Volvo...no complaints on any of the above.

Not entirely correct. My company in the US makes those sensors (die level) our competitors are mainly German and US companies. After manufacture the component is encapsulated and automotive grade harnesses are attached units are tested pre and post production.

By the time the part is installed in your car it's passed thru several companies. BTW. We sell to all the automotive manufacturers in different form factors so your toy, Honda, Kia, GM, sube etc may use all many or several sensors from the same US ( for now) company


All that said the average semiconductor life span is on the order of 10 years or so.....so if your newer car is more than 10 years old, you can reasonably expect to see some failures, if its 20 years old you may be SOL on replacement parts. The 20 year SOL may not realistically be an issue for another 5-10 years based on the increasing numbers of semiconductors used for things like current sensing, LEDs, motor drivers, and hall sensors!

 

The cost effectiveness is the primary arguement FOR the Pro Comps. By the time you get factory iron to flow as well, it will cost you more, will be heavier, won't have as good a chamber, etc.

Carbs are fine, ever flood a car on a cold morning? After it does start you need to let it warm up. Not with EFI. I'm not sure where you keep coming up with these numbers and prices. I never said that converting an old-school engine to EFI was cost effective. I did say that modern computer controlled EFI systems are better.

 

OMG now that is just not true....

 

Actually, it sort of IS true, however Nasty has somewhat garbled the facts.

The metric that's published is North American content, which includes Canada and Mexico. It also varies by model year, obviously. For the 2012 model year, the vehicle sold in the US with the highest North American content was the Toyota Matrix, interestingly built at the old NUMMI plant, which is the former Fremont plant. Number two is the Toyota Avalon. The GM full size vans (Express and Savana) are next, followed by the (Canandian-built) Impala, Sienna, Accord, and Crosstour.

http://www.autoweek.com/car-shopping...n-america.html

 

I found this..

http://kogodnow.com/autoindex/