Rallye469

My new '65 convertible doesn't have side glass.
I keep seeing people selling front side glass that will (supposedly) fit both a hard top AND a convertible.
But when I look up the parts they have different #'s

I know the rear is definitely different.

Thanks for any help in ANY convertible vs. hardtop door differences.
-peter

2blu442

Peter, I've got the rear glass out from a 1964 hardtop & convertible, here's pictures of them. I do have extra tinted and clear for the backseat. I have doors from both the convertible and hardtop, if nobody can verify if they are different or not I can take some measurements for you.


hartop glass is clear and underneath the tinted convertible glass

Hardtop on left, convertible on right

The metal for the hardtop has a piece broken off at the very bottom

Number on the hardtop glass frame

Number on convertible glass frame

Rallye469

Thank you Blu!
I have the rear glass thankfully.
I thought hardtop front glass would work...but the 1965 Parts master list says they're different.
I have a '64 hardtop parts car I've been hopeful would work.

Have any side picts of convertible front glass?

-peter

Rallye469

And that is GREAT reference BTW!!!
Thank you.
-peter

2blu442

I've got 1964 doors, from both a convertible and a hardtop. The glass is still inside them, but let me see if I can take some meaningful measurements without pulling the glass.

Bfg

The glass for the doors are the same for convertible and hardtop

joe_padavano

The door shells are the same for HT and convert, but the glass is different height. The vent window assemblies are also different.

Bfg

Thanks for pointing that out Joe, I always thought the front glass was the same, sorry to mislead anyone

Rallye469

I went out and measured the vent windows today on my HT and Convertible. They look identical.
13.75” width
15.00” height

This is weird.

joe_padavano

No, actually the weird part is that I gave you bad info. For 64-65 the Holiday Coupe and convertible vent windows are the same P/N. Sorry about that. I should have verified first.




Thing is the door glass is still different between Holiday Coupe and convert.

Rallye469

I’m just happy to hear the vents are the same…on less tricky part.

Joe, do you think the difference between the two could be thickness, or type of safety glass?
Extra layer of lamination or something?
I’m just pulling straws…but wouldn’t they want a convertible’s glass to be a bit stronger with not having a real roof channel to tuck into?
Maybe it’s not the size, but the construction?

Just guessing.
-peter

Rallye469

I threw in hard top glass from my 64 just to see if it would work…looks pretty much correct.
Still a mystery why the parts #’s are different.
Curve looks the same.
-peter


-peter

Rallye469

I HAVE AN ANSWER!
It is indeed different shaped glass.
The convertible has more of a bow to the top edge and possibly a slightly different angle to the tail edge.

In these pics the convertible glass is underneath with hardtop glass gently laid over the top. (I lined everything up very carefully)

Different part # equals different part(and not just how the glass is tempered.)
-peter

Rallye469

(And thank you Jim(FAmilyRides) for providing the vert pieces)
-peter