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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:04 AM
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442 or not?

Found this advertised as a 1969 442, with a "454" Olds and an auto. Shouldn't a 442 have rear bumper cutouts? Asking price is $28552, and not abnormal for an American classic over here. Not intending to buy, I was just curious.

http://amerikaner.dk/modules/MyAnnon...ces&lid=135300












Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:12 AM
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The bumper issue is by far the least troubling & incorrect.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:17 AM
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If the vin# starts with 344.. then it was 'born' as a 442 but in looking at it I seriously doubt it.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:24 AM
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Somehow that angry woodpecker decal is appropriate.


Are those SS emblems on the fenders?
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by mmurphy77
If the vin# starts with 344.. then it was 'born' as a 442 but in looking at it I seriously doubt it.
Originally Posted by VikingBlue
The bumper issue is by far the least troubling & incorrect.
X2

I'm going to vote 'no'.
There are too many things wrong with it...even considering it is overseas (parts scarcity)....
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 06:58 AM
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Got to be a cutlass not a 442. Too many things point to cutlass such as the "S" emblems on the hood and glove box, the molding on the trunk lid and the bumper.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 07:21 AM
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Thanks guys, I threw him a message with a friendly heads-up.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 11:20 AM
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he will never get anywhere close to that price
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Remember he's not in the states so you never know what the market might bear over there.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 11:31 AM
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Beside being a Cutlass with a Cutlass rear bumper. 442's do not say Oldsmobile on drivers side of the hood. The hood tooth has an "S" where the 442 should be.The trunk chrome at the trunk latch is definately a Cutlass. Glove box and door panels have the Cutlass "S" on them. It's hard to tell from the pic but it looks like it has later model *****. And of course the vin should strat with 34467
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Correct 442

Bumper is ok but that wide chrome strip across the trunk screams Cutlass!
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Old Feb 21, 2012 | 01:30 PM
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Is that crooked wing designed for NASCAR racing??
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 01:58 PM
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Is that crooked wing designed for NASCAR racing??

That's a fair assumption. Cars that race in circles are often compensated to favor one side over the other.
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Seff
Thanks guys, I threw him a message with a friendly heads-up.
$10 says he doesn't change his advertisement just from a non-buying person's phone call.

442's are a more desirable vehicle, and this guy wants to sell it for the highest $$ possible.
It's advertised this way because it's up to the buyer to know what they are buying.
The seller most likely doesn't care. See these ads all the time.

The SS logo's cracked me up....
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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I would be interested to know what price he gets for that car. If it is anywhere near asking then I am going to start a business shipping cars to Europe (enough German cars came to the US).
Old Feb 21, 2012 | 09:01 PM
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I would be interested to know what price he gets for that car. If it is anywhere near asking then I am going to start a business shipping cars to Europe (enough German cars came to the US).
There is big money in shipping cars overseas for numerous reasons.

The most important recent reason is the depreciation of the USD and the strength of the Euro.
Alot of people I know from over in Europe that live here now have been exporting cars, bikes, quads, galore.

But realistically that car is rare over there so ~$30,000 USD for a rare muscle car convertible
in decent condition isn't too steep.

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Old Feb 22, 2012 | 06:45 AM
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Is that a wad of duct tape posing as an oil filler tube cap?? I can't even imagine what the stack of fuses/relays(?) on the drivers fender well are being used for..
Old Feb 23, 2012 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Aceshigh
$10 says he doesn't change his advertisement just from a non-buying person's phone call.

442's are a more desirable vehicle, and this guy wants to sell it for the highest $$ possible.
It's advertised this way because it's up to the buyer to know what they are buying.
The seller most likely doesn't care. See these ads all the time.

The SS logo's cracked me up....
He changed it. I'll let you owe me. He said the VIN started with 336, and that the guy who sold him the car had sold it as a 442.

As for the price, I've spent $25000 on mine so far, $10000 of them being the paintjob. Given that the minimum wage is $20 for unskilled labor, we have a different kind of money over here - which means everything in the US seems cheap to us. Hell, gas prices are up to 13 kr a liter; that's $8.78 a gallon.

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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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Sorry for the slow update.
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Seff
He changed it. I'll let you owe me. He said the VIN started with 336, and that the guy who sold him the car had sold it as a 442.
I guess I do.

I guess the used car salesman in Denmark understand integrity.
Something most American car salesman still don't understand.

It's the #1 most deceptive job in America for many years......2nd was Loan Officers/Real Estate agents for home buyers.
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 06:15 AM
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I think this guy honestly didn't know what he had - he hinted at it being the third part of a trade, for better or worse. Not necessarily a used car salesman by profession, just an enthusiast (which you have to be to own a classic American car over here). I've been cheated before, so frauds are just as plentiful over here. :P
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 06:23 AM
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As for the price, I've spent $25000 on mine so far, $10000 of them being the paintjob. Given that the minimum wage is $20 for unskilled labor, we have a different kind of money over here - which means everything in the US seems cheap to us.
It's a shame you guys are suffering so badly under Socialism over there .

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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 06:47 AM
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Yeah, it's downright atrocious. Anyway, the forum has a 'no politics' policy, so I'm hereby evading the topic. :P

Saw a '76 for sale today, priced at $3300, with a borked transmission: http://www.guloggratis.dk/personbile...mages=1#images





Old Feb 24, 2012 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Seff
Saw a '76 for sale today, priced at $3300, with a borked transmission...


I'm going out, buying a ship, picking up a load of cars at the junkyard, and coming over there!

- Eric
Old Feb 24, 2012 | 07:06 AM
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Eric, You'll have to take a number, I'm ahead of you in line.
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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 07:08 AM
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How about this 1948 Customized Olds 98 Convertible? A mere $87475 for this baby.



Old Feb 24, 2012 | 10:24 AM
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At least that last one is a damn nice looking car. There may be something to this shipping cars to europe thing...

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Old Feb 24, 2012 | 10:38 AM
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Taillights hidden in the bumper??
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 04:45 AM
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Cars are just of average ridiculously expensive, and a fancy car like any of the above gets extra value because of the rarity of them - thus they get away with prices like the above. The 183% sales tax on a new car doesn't help the matter either.
Old Feb 25, 2012 | 05:47 AM
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I'm going out, buying a ship, picking up a load of cars at the junkyard, and coming over there!

- Eric
Transmission is the least of that car's problems.
Old Mar 9, 2012 | 12:48 PM
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Late to this Dance...

Hey Seff I fully Understand how attractive US cars are over there, I saw a 2000 something chrysler 300 and my friend said it would sell for huge bucks, sort of what a Nimbus Motorcycle would sell for over here. My friend is buying a lot of muscle cars and he will send them all home to Norway when he finally retires...

By the way My Mom was from Laesoe, I was in Copenhagen last year what a beautiful country it was my first visit there. I was in heaven down in Nyhavn Ice Cold Carlsberg!!! and a little schnaps



Anyway the World Needs more Danish Oldsmobile Fans!!!!

ohhh and that is definately a cutlass..... but you knew that...
Old Mar 11, 2012 | 06:51 AM
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Every 60-something guy over here wants a Mustang to cure his midlife crisis, so they're a huge commodity. Unlike 60-something American guys, these guys didn't drive them in their youth, and thus see them in a different light.

Did you get your mother's name? Hansen is definitely Danish. :P Yeah, I'm pretty happy with our little country, all things considered - I agree, though, there SHOULD be more Oldsmobile fans. Nobody here knows what it is!

Oh, and we can't drink while deployed, so any talk of cold beer leaves my mouth afloat. >.>

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