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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:35 AM
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Q about olds nationals

I do not have time for all weekend at show , can anyone tell me best day to go and can i just drive up to show and register for that day or do you have to preregister .Never been to olds nationals show but excited to go been a olds cutlasas owner since 1983 wondering what i can be expecting to encounter .
Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:24 AM
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Judging day is Friday, so that will be the best day to see cars. Most cars will still be there thru Saturday morning but a lot of folks have to leave and get back home for work Monday morning.

Friday will also be a good day for the swap meet. It's still open thru about noon Saturday but the really good stuff will have been picked over by then.

Preregistration is required and the cutoff date is past, so you won't be able to just show up and get the car on the showfield. OCA membership is also required to show.

Don't let that stop you from going up to look around and meet people. I've never known a National Meet that didn't welcome spectators, especially if they show up in an Oldsmobile.
Old Jul 4, 2010 | 08:12 AM
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I'll second what Glenn said. Folks will be making side trips on Thursday and some are already planning to leave on Saturday for the drag race, so Friday will definitely be the best day to go. I was only able to go one day last year, so I went Friday, despite the rain.
Old Jul 4, 2010 | 08:24 AM
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Paul: We'll be driving up from Texas, and get to Sturbridge on Tuesday evening, and leave on Sunday morning. Hope to get to meet you and see your car there. We'll have a big ol' white '92 Custom Cruiser on the Show Field. You truly will enjoy seeing the great spread of gorgeous Oldsmobile's, all in one place. Come on down!
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Old Jul 4, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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Aron cant wait to go and see some great cars ill be driving up my 69 olds not sure were ill be or parking but will be looking for you and any body else that will be there love to chat with ill be there on friday for sure
Old Jul 4, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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You'll have to be a member of the OCA to register, unless something's changed.
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 05:41 AM
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Yes, the registration due date has passed
But, we still have room for show only vehicles and will allow them to park in a separate area on the showfield. And even if you don't bring an Olds, it will still be a great time for all.
We have just over 400 show cars registered for display
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 05:47 AM
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You'll have to be a member of the OCA to register, unless something's changed.
ive had my cars registerred in OCA meets,and im not a member
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 05:54 AM
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ive had my cars registerred in OCA meets,and im not a member

OCA NATIONALS are strictly members only. Events like Homecoming, the Ohio zone shows arent.
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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Don't let that stop you from going up to look around and meet people. I've never known a National Meet that didn't welcome spectators, especially if they show up in an Oldsmobile.
Absolutely!!
One can come and have a great time without registering or even taking a car for that matter.
This exposure is an excellent way to get acclimated to the Oldsmobile environment and perhaps also recruit new OCA members and Oldsmobile collectors.
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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Mine will be one less car there! I got shafted in Seven Springs by the judging and decided no more Olds Nationals for me. I should have never asked for my judging sheet. It was full of fabrications that had no basis in truth! Was my car so good that they had to make things up in order to give the class to their personal favorite? Oh, by the way. In case you think that I have an over inflated opinion of my car, it's a Senior Grand National winner judged as so by AACA standards!
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Mine will be one less car there! I got shafted in Seven Springs by the judging and decided no more Olds Nationals for me. I should have never asked for my judging sheet. It was full of fabrications that had no basis in truth! Was my car so good that they had to make things up in order to give the class to their personal favorite? Oh, by the way. In case you think that I have an over inflated opinion of my car, it's a Senior Grand National winner judged as so by AACA standards!
I'm sorry you feel that any aspect of the judging is enough to keep you away from the Nats. Sure, OCA judging has a long way to go. But I can also dig up questionable aspects of AACA judging too.
Frankly, I don't understand why you don't see and accept the limitations of OCA judging. There are no standards to judge a car by and it is done with and by volunteers. In most cases there are not the *most* knowledgeable Oldsmobile people doing the judging. What they are, though, are guys willing to volunteer their time to do the best they can. Which means it is open season for criticism. But let's see some constructive criticism.
So it seems that your expectations are higher than reality really is.

The Nationals are a *lot* more than judging. Yes, to those that only go to the Nationals to get the highest level of judging, one is better off not going.
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 08:50 AM
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Olds Nationals

I had a great time at Seven Springs, taking many pictures and enjoying the tours also. I left satisfied that another car had won my class and must have been better than mine. The problem was reading the judging sheet afterwards! No matter how much a novice at judging you are, you simply don't make statements that are not factual. If you don't know what T3's are, you don't accuse someone of not having them! If you can't determine the correct engine color, don't guess!
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BOOWAH
I should have never asked for my judging sheet. It was full of fabrications that had no basis in truth! Was my car so good that they had to make things up in order to give the class to their personal favorite?
welcome to the OCA
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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The volunteers try to do a good job, but if your car wasn't judged fairly, see the head judge, the brand-new Pres and VP, and discuss your problem. I have been a member for 34 years and there have been plenty of problems, especially in the old days. As members we can make the club what is good and reasonable, by participating. I got both Street Stock and Race Car classes started, and neither was "mainstream" with the Powers That Be (or Were). Even though the POB said they wanted Race Cars, there were a lot of issues to resolve getting logic interfaced with excessive politics. I'm just a "nothing" member, not one of the Powers, and I have gotten their attention. So could you if you would PARTICIPATE.
Old Jul 5, 2010 | 11:27 AM
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Boowah- it's been a year so too much time may have passed, but you should have taken this up with the OCA Head Judge and the Seven Springs Meet head judge soon after you got the judging sheet.

I don't always agree with the way the judging turns out either, and I'm an OCA Senior Judge. I beat the drum for years to get a coherent judging program in place, with training and certifications on specific carlines and specific responsibilities for the National Judging Committee. All to naught. That National Judging Committee is nothing if not obstinate.

IMHO the whole crowd needs to be dumped and start over with new people who understand that a National First Place Award should mean just that- a car that is either an outstanding benchmark original, or that has been restored as close to factory standards as possible.

Before anyone decides to runteldat, they are aware of my opinions and have been since I was Atlantic Southeast Zone Director.

The AACA has a good program in place, but it also has its faults. One of my big beefs with them is that the burden of proof is on the car owner for correctness. By necessity they have to be a little generic, but there are certain things I expect the person or team judging my car to know about it, and to know enough about it to not dock the car points. Redline tires are a glaring example- AACA insists redline tires were not available until 1967, when use of redlines on 442, GTO, and Mustangs in 1964 is well documented. I've sent them the Olds documentation from the 1964 Service Guilds and they still dither about it. "But is this a factory document?" one of them said.

I mean, it states "published monthly by the Oldsmobile Service Department" right on the masthead...
Old Jul 7, 2010 | 04:36 AM
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Olds 68 so i can park in just show area ,my car nowere close to be a judge winner just a enjoyable ride but i donnot want to park it in a lot were spectators park and have no care of other people vehicles if so what is the cost
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