General Discussion Discuss your Oldsmobile or other car-related topics.

Restoring rear view mirror - a "how to" for the DIYer

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old January 12th, 2018, 01:29 PM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
BSiegPaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: North Royalton, OH
Posts: 1,281
Restoring rear view mirror - a "how to" for the DIYer

So I've seen quite a few posts on doing this, but no one actually doing it. So I thought I would try - no harm, no foul. I had a map light mirror with bad glass and a dent in the back.


I noticed that the attachment of the front to the metal back wasn't perfect, and with a very small screwdriver I found a gap and began slowly working my way down the long side, carefully separating the pieces. Don't pry, or you'll bend the soft metal. Just slowly push and it will let go.



Once a full side was separated and I could gently pull the pieces away from each other, I used a knife to slowly slide through the opposite side from the inside out. Again, go slowly and carefully.



When the two pieces were apart, I used a hair dryer on low setting to slightly soften the rubber surround and pry it back from the glass all around.



Now I had the glass separate and I needed to strip the mirror off the surface. I used Lysol Toilet bowl cleaner - the gel - soaking the back completely for about 30 minutes, then rubbing lightly with 4-0 steel wool. The Lysol turned blue and I could see the back of the mirror turning a copper color as it worked.



I still had some mirror remaining on the glass, and I had heard that oven cleaner did a good job in removing this, so I applied some Easy Off spray and let it sit for about 5 minutes. This really took off almost all of the remaining silver, but there was a slight black cast on the glass remaining. This was removed by a quick application of straight bleach.



This left a perfectly clear glass.



I purchased a mini silver kit from Angel Gilding - the only one I could find on the internet. Delivered it was about $68.



I followed their directions, which are simple. They supply measuring cups and enough material to do about three mirrors.
I bought two long silverware separators to put the chemicals in - just need to be big enough to lay the mirror inside.
Pick the side that will be the mirror surface and keep that up. That means the front of the mirror will be face down in the trays all the time.

The first step involves mixing two mL of Tin of Silver with 2 oz of water. Lay the mirror in the tray and pour the mixture on top. Slosh it around for 30 seconds. Remove the mirror (use gloves!!! No hand oil!!!) and pour distilled water over it to rinse clean. It looks like you have done nothing at all because the glass is still clear.
Second, mix the three separate ingredients - cleverly marked as one, two, and three - in equal amounts and lay the glass into the second container. Pour the mix on top - you will see the glass start to darken right away. For this mix you will slosh the liquid around for about 5 minutes. The chemicals will appear darker and darker and you will see the mirror start to reflect.
Remove the mirror and rinse again by pouring distilled water over it. Let it dry - I used a low hair dryer; don't wipe it.
When it is dry, it will look like this:


It's got a pretty good reflection, but this is the back! You want to now apply the black backing paint, which is oil base, so keep thinner handy if you are sloppy or want to keep your brush.




When this is dry - again, I used a hair dryer - flip it over. You'll see the same finish as you saw before painting, but this is residual silver. Using the silver remover, wipe off the excess material from the front.



Soften/heat the rubber surround and reinstall.




I had a dent in the metal back which I rolled out with the round end of a ball peen hammer. This metal is really soft. No need to hammer or hit - just press. Then I polished the whole back with Nevr Dull.




I made sure the metal connector for the light bulb was bent properly and made connection, then I glued the front and back assembly together, weighting it and leaving it overnight.




Finished and installed



BSiegPaint is offline  
Old January 12th, 2018, 01:41 PM
  #2  
Registered User
 
stevengerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chi-town
Posts: 4,511
great write-up. I first soaked the mirror in hot water to help break the seal of the rubber holding the glass in. Also for even less money you can send your glass to this company and they will re-silver it for you.

Silver Service, Inc.
16120 Vandustrial Lane
South Holland, Illinois 60473
708-331-5501
stevengerard is offline  
Old January 12th, 2018, 03:34 PM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
BSiegPaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: North Royalton, OH
Posts: 1,281
I couldn't tell - is the front glued onto the back or melted on? I sure thought about sending the glass out - if there was a place in Cleveland, I would have taken it there. My recent luck with shipping glass stuff recently hasn't been good... The silvering kit was $55, but $13 to ship it. And if you have some bigger stuff to do, there's enough material to do more than just the one mirror. It was a fun project!
BSiegPaint is offline  
Old January 12th, 2018, 04:13 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
classicmuscle442's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Water Wonderland MI.
Posts: 1,414
Nice job, thanks for the in depth write up and pictures. My mirror has a hot spot from the light bulb.
classicmuscle442 is offline  
Old January 12th, 2018, 06:16 PM
  #5  
72 Olds CS
 
RetroRanger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 6,657
nice work well documented i have 3-4 mirrors i should get after none look as good as your before mirror!
RetroRanger is offline  
Old January 12th, 2018, 06:53 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
scrappie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: eastern MA
Posts: 3,287
awesome, thanks for sharing
scrappie is offline  
Old January 12th, 2018, 09:06 PM
  #7  
Registered User
 
BackInTheGame's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Colorado - Front Range
Posts: 2,369
This is really cool!! Thanks for taking the time to document your process and share it with us!
BackInTheGame is offline  
Old January 12th, 2018, 09:18 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
stevengerard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Chi-town
Posts: 4,511
Originally Posted by BSiegPaint
I couldn't tell - is the front glued onto the back or melted on?

Two of mine were glued
stevengerard is offline  
Old January 13th, 2018, 07:53 AM
  #9  
Registered User
 
Greg Rogers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Harrison, Michigan
Posts: 4,727
Hey this is great! Seems all the used mirrors has the silver coming off. Now I know you can do it at home. Does the glass still retain the "high /low" or whatever it's called that you flip when someone is blinding you with high beams? Thanks so much for this thread.
Greg Rogers is offline  
Old January 13th, 2018, 08:35 AM
  #10  
Registered User
 
Travlr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 49
Oh so common problem... and a very thorough display of how to deal with it. I'll try it myself now. Thanks for the information.
Travlr is offline  
Old January 13th, 2018, 09:49 AM
  #11  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
BSiegPaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: North Royalton, OH
Posts: 1,281
Originally Posted by Greg Rogers
Hey this is great! Seems all the used mirrors has the silver coming off. Now I know you can do it at home. Does the glass still retain the "high /low" or whatever it's called that you flip when someone is blinding you with high beams? Thanks so much for this thread.
As long as you still have the angled original glass, nothing changes as far as the function of the day/night effect
BSiegPaint is offline  
Old January 13th, 2018, 09:57 AM
  #12  
Registered User
 
c-towndave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: North Royalton, OH
Posts: 56
Bob,

I probably don't live more than 5 mi. from you. Would like to see your car sometime. I live off of Akins. I've got a '68 convertible.

Regards,
Dave
c-towndave is offline  
Old January 13th, 2018, 02:46 PM
  #13  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
BSiegPaint's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: North Royalton, OH
Posts: 1,281
Originally Posted by c-towndave
Bob,

I probably don't live more than 5 mi. from you. Would like to see your car sometime. I live off of Akins. I've got a '68 convertible.

Regards,
Dave
Hi, Dave!

I guarantee I have seen you driving around, but I wasn't in the Olds and we were always going opposite ways. I'm right off Boston near Bennett's Corner. Love to meet up sometime!

Bob
BSiegPaint is offline  
Old January 15th, 2018, 07:49 AM
  #14  
Registered User
 
Funkwagon455's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Aledo, Texas
Posts: 2,386
Thumbs up

Thank you very much
Funkwagon455 is offline  
Old January 15th, 2018, 08:26 AM
  #15  
Registered User
 
oldspackrat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Indianapolis
Posts: 4,846
Some of you may know that I have restored MANY mirrors for customers. This write up is a good way to do it yourself but if you want to send them to me I can restore them for you also. I also am looking for nice core mirrors & that could help with the cost. I charge $75.00 to restore them plus shipping back to you.
oldspackrat is offline  
Old January 20th, 2018, 05:59 AM
  #16  
Registered User
 
dennis_30281's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Stockbridge, Georgia
Posts: 408
Originally Posted by stevengerard
great write-up. I first soaked the mirror in hot water to help break the seal of the rubber holding the glass in. Also for even less money you can send your glass to this company and they will re-silver it for you.

Silver Service, Inc.
16120 Vandustrial Lane
South Holland, Illinois 60473
708-331-5501
Nice job!
Dennis
dennis_30281 is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
81 regency
Parts For Sale
0
April 21st, 2011 06:18 PM
tim72
Interior/Upholstery
2
April 9th, 2009 05:33 AM
64 Olds Dynamic 88
Eighty-Eight
1
April 27th, 2008 06:53 PM
dholmes898
Chassis/Body/Frame
5
March 29th, 2007 08:07 AM
<diablo76delta88>
Parts Wanted
1
September 11th, 2003 08:41 PM



Quick Reply: Restoring rear view mirror - a "how to" for the DIYer



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:48 AM.