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Old Mar 25, 2016 | 01:40 PM
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Lansing perduction

Anyone have an idea how many cars could be built in a day in 1968 at the Lansing plant or any guess ?

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Old Mar 25, 2016 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JIM'S w30
Anyone have an idea how many cars could be built in a day in 1968 at the Lansing plant or any guess ?
From Dave H

http://realoldspower.prophpbb.com/post25706.html?hilit=Lansing%20assembly#p25706
Old Mar 25, 2016 | 04:20 PM
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That was 1972, IIRC that setting the pace mentioned in the upper seventies per hour. This does not account for line issues i.e. break downs and again how many shifts; bare minimum of 2 and most of the time 3.

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Old Mar 25, 2016 | 08:39 PM
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dont ever remember 3 shifts of production on the line at fisher. only 2.
Old Mar 25, 2016 | 09:07 PM
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Line speed of under 60 seconds per car coming off the line is hauling the mail, then and now.
Old Mar 26, 2016 | 03:16 AM
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dont ever remember 3 shifts of production on the line at fisher. only 2.
What years were you at Plant 6? Also how many hours were you working per day? How many units were you guys putting out an hour?

I will text a good friend of mine who also worked at Fisher from 73 till the end of plant 6 and then he finished up at Delta.

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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 07:25 AM
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i was there from 76 to 04, i was repair so i worked at least 9 hrs,sometimes 10,12. main line worked 8 to 9 hrs ran around 62 an hr if i remember correctly. grandpa retired from there in 71,dad retired from there in 87,never remember them working or saying anything of a 3rd shift. what area did your friend work at?
Old Mar 26, 2016 | 07:36 AM
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What about vin tags and trim body tags when were they put on and in what order, being the front windshield was installed before it came to the end of the line . I notice most cars have the vin lets say #34487M200200 before body tag#LAN205200sometimes as far spaced as 5000 numbers apart,why the gap in the numbers why not make both numbers the same?
Old Mar 26, 2016 | 08:01 AM
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When I was at the Framingham BOP plant in 1972, the line ran at 60 cars per hour, two shifts per day.

Most of the line jobs were really hard, physically and mentally.

If you lasted 30 years in a line job, you deserved a great pension.
Old Mar 26, 2016 | 05:28 PM
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i was there from 76 to 04, i was repair so i worked at least 9 hrs,sometimes 10,12. main line worked 8 to 9 hrs ran around 62 an hr if i remember correctly. grandpa retired from there in 71,dad retired from there in 87,never remember them working or saying anything of a 3rd shift. what area did your friend work at?
Bill Birchfield, I believe he was doing welding in body shop during the GA and Alero era? but I am sure he had many jobs over the years. His son is a member here 84hurstlightining.

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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JIM'S w30
What about vin tags and trim body tags when were they put on and in what order, being the front windshield was installed before it came to the end of the line . I notice most cars have the vin lets say #34487M200200 before body tag#LAN205200sometimes as far spaced as 5000 numbers apart,why the gap in the numbers why not make both numbers the same?
Trim (cowl) tags were installed at Fisher Body, VINs at the assembly plant. The VINs on Lansing cars were installed before the windshield so the rivets face down. BOP plants installed the VINs after the windshields so the rivets face up. (Per Daveh on many threads over the years)

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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by JIM'S w30
What about vin tags and trim body tags when were they put on and in what order, being the front windshield was installed before it came to the end of the line . I notice most cars have the vin lets say #34487M200200 before body tag#LAN205200sometimes as far spaced as 5000 numbers apart,why the gap in the numbers why not make both numbers the same?
The body tag is an effect of having the body shell made by a different division, Fisher, than Lansing Final Assembly. The body tag is production number made in order from Fisher. I would bet, being old paint tech, that they probably made cars in slugs of different colors, and fed them to Final Assembly in whatever order they wanted from their buffer.

The VIN tag is put on on the assembly line, but it does not need to be at the end of the line. Rather, once the cars get into sequence on the line, that determines the VIN number's last digits.

I am not sure how they counted body tags. I think VINs were just the #car down the line, but the body tag may have been # of that specific body type. I wasn't there, I'm posting off of what I have read, and knowledge of a modern car plant.

If anyone cares about modern production, we weld the unibodies and the body on frame bodies in house, and they get stamped with a sequence number. They get painted and put in the paint buffer. Once they get lifted on the conveyor to final assembly, they are in order and we can begin building up their powertrains and instrument panels. They get a vin tag about the first or second process on the trim line, and that is that. The "build sheets" all get recycled, but ain't no one going to restore a Toyota, anyway.
Old Mar 26, 2016 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JIM'S w30
What about vin tags and trim body tags when were they put on and in what order, being the front windshield was installed before it came to the end of the line . I notice most cars have the vin lets say #34487M200200 before body tag#LAN205200sometimes as far spaced as 5000 numbers apart,why the gap in the numbers why not make both numbers the same?
My gathering is that Lansing A body VIN's started out the year 100,000. Fisher start sequence was 0? Because we have seen ultra low numbers from BF, G and E Fishers.

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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 09:13 PM
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hello ex gm workers, maybe one of you can answer this for me. My body tag has a L/N where LAN should be, what may have happened. Its a 1970 442 w30 conv. any thought, thanks

I have owned this car since 1978
Old Mar 29, 2016 | 03:12 AM
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hello ex gm workers, maybe one of you can answer this for me. My body tag has a L/N where LAN should be, what may have happened. Its a 1970 442 w30 conv. any thought, thanks

I have owned this car since 1978
Good luck with that! I work at a equipment dealer about 20-25 south west of Lansing and pull credit apps. from former GM/Olds/Fisher employees and I have had several Fisher guys that I personally know and for 2 years of trying to find the key puncher for the cowl tags with no luck. We have been looking the Z code in front of the interior code that was 1970-71 as late May production.

I believe yours was a key stroke error? I have seen this L/N a handful of times now.

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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 06:44 AM
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Pat, thanks
another is my hardtop cowl plate ,,, look at the date code, how is it possible I got two cars with error plates.
this car I bought off the original owner on 1982? I seen him pick up the car new.

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Old Mar 29, 2016 | 06:56 AM
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trim tags were installed in the body shop,before the door line.we have switched trim tags to other bodies if a body was damaged badly it was scrapped and a new one was tagged.or if it had the wrong option ,say bx2 studs and holes,(lower body trim) rather than scrap it,it would get a tag switch from an other car. the vins ,i think were put on in the trim dept,before the dash was installed
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