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Old Sep 30, 2021 | 05:04 PM
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Whats this rear axle bump stop extension for?

I've seen these a few times on rear axles. got another one with it on. its a 12 bolt Olds from 67, 68 or 69? not sure as the rear was swapped out years ago.

its a small bracket that bolts onto where the bump stop rubber is and raises it up approx 1/2" this rear is not from a wagon and neither were the others. im assuming its to let the rear hit the bumper sooner

Old Sep 30, 2021 | 05:16 PM
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I think it's called a pinion bumper - stops the floor pan from slamming into (bottoming out) on the differential after going airborne over a railroad track - if it's what I'm thinking it is.
Old Sep 30, 2021 | 05:25 PM
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I think it's called a pinion bumper - stops the floor pan from slamming into (bottoming out) on the differential after going airborne over a railroad track - if it's what I'm thinking it is.
not that.
Old Sep 30, 2021 | 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
not that.
OK Not sure then. The closest guess would be to say it's a snubber bracket which was used to raise or lower the pinion bumper.
Old Sep 30, 2021 | 06:14 PM
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Old Sep 30, 2021 | 07:32 PM
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It's a rear axle bump stop. These are only found on hp manual transmission cars.
Old Sep 30, 2021 | 07:34 PM
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Both of my 66 442's have them. I have always assumed they are to keep the rear end from hitting the frame during a deep compression of the spring and shock.
Old Oct 1, 2021 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 66SportCoupe
It's a rear axle bump stop. These are only found on hp manual transmission cars.
Do you have any factory info about that? ive looked through a few manuals but havent seen it specified for what you said
Old Oct 1, 2021 | 04:14 PM
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Those are pretty common on A body Buicks with HD suspension like a GSX, or GS 455. The bumper is the same as any, the bracket(s) limits travel. For Buicks, they appeared on both manual and auto trans w/15" wheels and HD suspension. They're on my 1970 GS 455 auto.
Old Oct 1, 2021 | 04:35 PM
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Ok i found a pic and info in the 1970 assembly line manual. pic is blurry so the part # cant be seen. says its for 3535 and 3635 cars?


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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 04:48 PM
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Thanks.

but the two numbers under that is what i cant see. there would be a left and right
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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 05:30 PM
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OK I opened up a couple more Assembly Manuals from various years & I think I found the numbers for the "bracket" itself which is now what I believe you want the number for. Give me a couple minutes to find those numbers.
Old Oct 1, 2021 | 05:32 PM
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I'm pretty sure the two numbers are the complete numbers - I'll check another manual for you. 9793636 & 9793637




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Old Oct 1, 2021 | 05:39 PM
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9793636 rh---9793637 lh.
Old Oct 1, 2021 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Yellowstatue
9793636 rh---9793637 lh.
I suppose you want another trophy?
Old Oct 1, 2021 | 06:00 PM
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ya those two part numbers.

if i knew those i could look in the parts manual for a better description
Old Oct 1, 2021 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
ya those two part numbers.

if i knew those i could look in the parts manual for a better description
Right. Well, we provided you with the numbers. You have them now?
Old Oct 2, 2021 | 08:48 AM
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I suppose you want another trophy?
I have installed another shelf.
Old Oct 2, 2021 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Yellowstatue
I have installed another shelf.

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Old Oct 3, 2021 | 11:56 AM
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"When accelerating hard or hitting a bump with four passengers in the car, ..."

So a driver and four passengers? Exactly how large are these passengers? Not after an answer, just loving the days of simpler times. Like an old service manual, one that assumes a lick of mechanical aptitude.
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Originally Posted by F-85 4-4-2
So a driver and four passengers? Exactly how large are these passengers? Not after an answer,
Actually, the answer is in the owner's manual. Olds assumed five passengers totaled 750 lbs, six passengers totaled 900 lbs. Yeah, in the 1960s, an average passenger was 150 lbs. It was a lot harder to stuff your face with junk food when you had a cigarette hanging from it.
Old Oct 3, 2021 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Actually, the answer is in the owner's manual. Olds assumed five passengers totaled 750 lbs, six passengers totaled 900 lbs. Yeah, in the 1960s, an average passenger was 150 lbs. It was a lot harder to stuff your face with junk food when you had a cigarette hanging from it.
Yes, back when cigarettes were healthy and doctor recommended.
Old Oct 3, 2021 | 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
Excellent! and you can clearly see the added bracket
Old Oct 3, 2021 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano

Different part numbers for the brackets and rubber bumper than the 1970 manual. i wonder what the difference is?
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
Different part numbers for the brackets and rubber bumper than the 1970 manual. i wonder what the difference is?
The 1966 rear axle and spring mounting is different from the 1970.
Old Oct 4, 2021 | 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The 1966 rear axle and spring mounting is different from the 1970.
yes I realize that. Where the rubber bumper sits in its slot, I don’t see any difference.

measured both rears side by side. Maybe it was a temporary part number in 66 ? Do those bulletins sometimes get put into regular parts books if they descide that it’s a permanent fix?

Then attach a permanent part number to it.

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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
yes I realize that. Where the rubber bumper sits in its slot, I don’t see any difference.

measured both rears side by side. Maybe it was a temporary part number in 66 ? Do those bulletins sometimes get put into regular parts books if they descide that it’s a permanent fix?

Then attach a permanent part number to it.

Obviously, those part numbers were not incorporated into the 1970 PIM, as can be witnessed via our posts from the 1970 PIM (above). I reviewed a 1969 PIM and I can attest the part numbers Joe provided are not incorporated into the 1969 PIM. I cannot speak to any 67 or 68 model year PIM.

NOTE: There was, however a difference in Part Numbers for the bumpers themselves for the 1969 model year based upon either a Lansing Build or all other Assembly Plants (compare to the 1970 PIM). Bracket numbers remained same for 69 & 70.



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