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Old February 28th, 2013, 10:00 AM
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Well, here's two stories that certainly seem contradictory

They're both from the same source (CNBC) at the same time, although the second one is dated a month ago.


New Cars Increasingly Out of Reach for Many Americans

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/cars-i...145957880.html



Auto Sales Start the Year With a Bang

http://www.cnbc.com/id/100428034?__s...ars|&par=yahoo
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Old February 28th, 2013, 10:39 AM
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They don't really conflict, one is about the affordability, the other is about sales in general. Personally I can't see how people are willing to have a car payment in excess of 5-600 a month. I sell cars and it just amazes me.

The other thing is what are the auto manufacturers going to do when interest rates actually go back to normal. Take a 50k truck @4% for 72 months = 782.5/ month.
At 6% 828.5, at 8% 876.50, those are house payments.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
They don't really conflict
They don't? I certainly think they do!

One says that only a small fraction of the population can afford a new vehicle, and the other says that new vehicles are selling like hotcakes. Certainly seems counterintuitive to me.

I guess those few people who can afford them are buying a lot of new cars.
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Old February 28th, 2013, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
They don't really conflict, one is about the affordability, the other is about sales in general. Personally I can't see how people are willing to have a car payment in excess of 5-600 a month. I sell cars and it just amazes me.

The other thing is what are the auto manufacturers going to do when interest rates actually go back to normal. Take a 50k truck @4% for 72 months = 782.5/ month.
At 6% 828.5, at 8% 876.50, those are house payments.
House payments.....times that by 3 here in NY......I wish I could convince the wife to move!

I wonder if Sandy skewed those numbers? I think most people can't afford, but when insurance nets you a new car......

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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
They don't really conflict, one is about the affordability, the other is about sales in general. Personally I can't see how people are willing to have a car payment in excess of 5-600 a month. I sell cars and it just amazes me.

The other thing is what are the auto manufacturers going to do when interest rates actually go back to normal. Take a 50k truck @4% for 72 months = 782.5/ month.
At 6% 828.5, at 8% 876.50, those are house payments.
I'm right there with you. Its been almost 10 years now since I was on the sales side of the fence but even then loaded Tahoes and Suburbans were $700-800 month. Now I just hope the same people keep spending $1500.00 at a time to keep the ones I sold then on the road
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