truckman5000

Hi, Im new here and with a new car. I had a 442 before...
So i bought a 70 w-30 with 40k miles on it. The car looks as so, so i bought it. As with no docs, got it for a 442 price.
I was looking for a no rust at a ok price 442 for 4-5 years, found this:

The car is numbers matching, 12-10-69 build. Oldsmobile 445 intake along with the numbers from carb-dis. f-heads,
The car was taken apart in 1990 by the past owner, for a repaint. Was completed and was in muscle car mag. I have the magazine. But everything else is here say. As in no documentation.

The only proof i have is old green factory over spray on the original red fender wells, along the wheel lip.
3- hole trunk lid, w. 3- hole wing. Tick toc ext. like everything is correct.
A insurance doc from 1989 states w-30.
Correct drive line for an a/c car.
Trans has correct tag and 70+ numbers on tag. No vin number.

The engine and trans were rebuilt 4k miles ago (30 yeas ago) they did a great job as the drive train is still show quality but the whole trans looks like they sanded it smooth. So off came the #s.

Great story but is there anything more/ else i can do to document the car?
Thanks

RetroRanger

look in the seats if they havent been recovered for the broadcast card

see this thread

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...rear-seat.html

truckman5000

Thanks, was hoping to find something. Havent removed the carpet or the front seat yet. We'll see..hopefully

66-3X2 442

The vin# is not on the tag. The vin # is above the pan side rail but I can't remember which side. If it's a OW tag and the vin# matches the car,it pretty much documents the car.

BangScreech4-4-2

Unless somebody bought a new tag on Ebay.

truckman5000

the tag is correct, its very old..

70-442-W30

Check under that rear seat for the broadcast card. That's where I found mine. I first looked under with a flashlight only, lifting the corners and peeking in. Gave it another try later and fully removed the seat bottom and it was in the back. Glad I double checked.

oldspackrat

The partial vin number on the trans will be on the driver side, just above the pan.

70-442-W30

Here is a better illustration of how far back the one I found was:




Also, trans VIN derivative location:

truckman5000

Thanks guys. I have the rear seat out..nothing. Maybee ill find something in the front seats.

70-442-W30

Check under the front seats, but also the seat backs. You will have to take off the seat back cover. There will be the 3 screws at the base of the seat back when you fold it, and also the button you push to fold the seat up. I got stuck there because I just thought there was some other fastener, but I tried again another day and decided to use a flat screwdriver to fully remove the surround. One popped out, no problem. The passenger side was tighter. Good luck.

Octania

Docs have been found just about everywhere.
within the front seat [under the plastic seat back cover]
in doors
under carpet
etc.


Alas, my car had been "fixed up" before it came to me [cheesy reupholstery job and new carpet] so my dreams are dashed. All I have is that OW tag trans and Dean is trying to take that from me [sob, sob].

joe_padavano

Welcome and congrats.

How do you know this? The cowl tag only has the month and week.

There should be no overspray from the factory. The fenders were painted before the inner fenders were attached.

3- hole trunk lid, w. 3- hole wing. Tick toc ext. like everything is correct.
A insurance doc from 1989 states w-30.
Correct drive line for an a/c car.
Trans has correct tag and 70+ numbers on tag. No vin number.

This is obviously suspicious.

Unfortunately, without a build sheet or broadcast card, you will never have definitive proof. Good luck.

72xw30

Hi there
Please post pictures of the W30 specific components including the OW tag.

Good luck in finding the broadcast cards - I have found them throughout my cars.

Cheers,
Sam

truckman5000

Thanks guys,
Joe. My painter has done 10-20 hurst/ w-30 cars. He picked up on 2 things i didnt even notice. Like one fender has the 71-72 ripples. That fender has the orig. green over spray.
Everything else is good, 442 wise.
I honestly didnt look at the vin # on the trans yet, just thought it was on the ow tag side.
Im alittle rusty, as its been a wile so im trying to ask the questions.
Appreciatethe help

70-442-W30

Yeah, that VIN derivative is going to be on the driver's side. It took me a while to find the one on mine because the numbers are small and also the case was so dirty. I used some brake cleaner and eventually it started to show. It is not a comfortable thing to do unless you are able to put it up on a lift. Prepare to hit your head a few times if you just jack the car up.

truckman5000

Thanks guys.
70-w30 ive followed your build! Good luck, any new pics? Hows everything going

truckman5000

I will, my buddy thats doing the body/ paint has it now. He's the type that dosnt want people dicking around while he has a car. So when its done ill get it back lol. I wanted to get the bugs worked out and go through it, but he has the time now. So the body works first, or i was to wait a year. He gave a great price, and we barter work. 5k and hes doing everything, obviously once taken down there was bondo, and an old fender repair that someone welded over the old. Crazy as when looking at the body you would never know.

70-442-W30

Thanks! It is going well. Starting to get a little tired. Mostly because all of this is new to me. You should be able to see all my pics here: https://classicoldsmobile.com/g/album/4626351

I'm no expert so far, but if I stick with it I may end up close!

truckman5000

I gothcha, ill look at the link !