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Old Jun 11, 2021 | 09:41 PM
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Tesla Model S Plaid set a new record for the quickest quarter-mile run production car

Jay Leno, the only person I am jealous of. Set a new record. Tesla Model S Plaid set a new record for the quickest quarter-mile run in a production car. The sedan had done it in 9.23 seconds at 152.16 miles per hour. With A/C on. Could be your for $135,000. Way cheaper then a Supercar.

https://www.motor1.com/news/511808/m...-quarter-mile/

I am sure this will be an entertaining thread!
Old Jun 12, 2021 | 12:24 AM
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Fantastic technology. Appears to be a great transportation appliance for the gadget and pocket-protector crowd. What fun is a 9 sec car if it doesn't scare children and annoy the neighbors? Besides, their styling is still about as exciting as the arrival of the new phone book. Want new technology with styling, excitement and personality at approx half the cost? C8 for me please.
Old Jun 12, 2021 | 01:18 AM
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a 1:1TH RC CAR GOES 9'S. yawn.
Bet it could do it in auto pilot.
No driver needed. it is an oversized rc car.
So, how many nitro burning hemi powered dodge chargers does Mopar have to build for it to be a production car.
6's anyone

Old Jun 12, 2021 | 05:58 AM
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Jay Leno, the only person I am jealous of. Set a new record. Tesla Model S Plaid set a new record for the quickest quarter-mile run in a production car. The sedan had done it in 9.23 seconds at 152.16 miles per hour. With A/C on. Could be your for $135,000. Way cheaper then a Supercar.

https://www.motor1.com/news/511808/m...-quarter-mile/

I am sure this will be an entertaining thread!
Just so you all know! You can't run at any NHRA dragstrip with a air-conditioning on. I have raced two Tesla cars they are fast. Glad the drivers couldn't dial there car correctly.
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Just so you all know! You can't run at any NHRA dragstrip with a air-conditioning on. I have raced two Tesla cars they are fast. Glad the drivers couldn't dial there car correctly.
Where did you read no air on track?
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I'm about as traditionally minded as they come but electric is on it's way to be the norm, mark my words. May not be in a few years but soon. When someone invents a system where a electric car can be charged as quick as a gas rig and hooked up to your house solar system it will come sooner than later. Free fuel is a good incentive, I'm sure the government will work hard to avoid this but the technology is headed that way... I'm still lost in the fifties but looking forward.... Tedd
Old Jun 12, 2021 | 06:50 AM
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Where did you read no air on track?
Running the AC pulls moisture from the air letting it drip on the track out of the evaporator unit...
This will get you disqualified.

They often announce this at track events for those that do not know any better.
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I get what the problem is and would not do it myself. It was quoted that could not race any NHRA track with air on. I'm just asking where did he read that rule. I was race director at Speedworld in Az for years and when something leaked we let driver know to correct it before next pass. I'm talking a leak not just drops of water from condenser, tail pipes, the occasional trans drip, motor oil drip. Besides when you have under 10% humidity like in Az the water removed from outside air is minimum
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Running the AC pulls moisture from the air letting it drip on the track out of the evaporator unit...
This will get you disqualified.

They often announce this at track events for those that do not know any better.

And if they don’t say anything over the PA system, other people in the staging lanes will definitely waste no time informing you that your a inconsiderate ******* for screwing up the track.
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A guy brought a Tesla on Drag Week in 2019. It went 10.90s all week in rather boring fashion. As said, what fun is that? No noise, no fumes, no wheel spin, no shifting, no fun
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Originally Posted by Tedd Thompson
I'm about as traditionally minded as they come but electric is on it's way to be the norm, mark my words. May not be in a few years but soon. When someone invents a system where a electric car can be charged as quick as a gas rig and hooked up to your house solar system it will come sooner than later. Free fuel is a good incentive, I'm sure the government will work hard to avoid this but the technology is headed that way... I'm still lost in the fifties but looking forward.... Tedd
To bad batteries were in a couple sizes and you go to a battery station slide your unit out and slide a new unit in. The batteries would be charged and in minutes you would be fully charged. Maybe I have an idea. NOT.
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Originally Posted by Tedd Thompson
I'm about as traditionally minded as they come but electric is on it's way to be the norm, mark my words. May not be in a few years but soon. When someone invents a system where a electric car can be charged as quick as a gas rig and hooked up to your house solar system it will come sooner than later. Free fuel is a good incentive, I'm sure the government will work hard to avoid this but the technology is headed that way... I'm still lost in the fifties but looking forward.... Tedd
The number of solar panels that you would need to fast charge an ev , you'd need to live in a huge warehouse to have the roof big enough.
When ev's become the norm, everyone's electric rates will goto the moon. supply and demand, and the demand will be much higher than supply. only thing ev's are going to do, is put everyone in the poor house from the electric bill.
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To bad batteries were in a couple sizes and you go to a battery station slide your unit out and slide a new unit in. The batteries would be charged and in minutes you would be fully charged. Maybe I have an idea. NOT.
They are so hell bent on electric cars, skip the battery b/s and go full on slot car on main routes & highways and a small battery for back roads.
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When ev's become the norm, everyone's electric rates will goto the moon. supply and demand, and the demand will be much higher than supply. only thing ev's are going to do, is put everyone in the poor house from the electric bill.
'SHOULD' ev's become the norm. If legislatures enact enough law in the face of physics and technical details not supported in our realm, what will result is rationing of grid based electricity. Think rolling blackouts, choosing between refrigerated food and air conditioning and charging your car. Only fools believe the supply would continue unabated. Learn from history.



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And if they don’t say anything over the PA system, other people in the staging lanes will definitely waste no time informing you that your a inconsiderate ******* for screwing up the track.
Your really inconsiderate if you know car is leaking alot going down the track and fluid is on entire 1/4 mile yet never pull out of groove and stop. Drips of fluid one track will not get you thrown out. I'll ask again where is the rule written that states you can NOT run air on any NHRA track? Simple question.
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Originally Posted by coldwar
'SHOULD' ev's become the norm. If legislatures enact enough law in the face of physics and technical details not supported in our realm, what will result is rationing of grid based electricity. Think rolling blackouts, choosing between refrigerated food and air conditioning and charging your car. Only fools believe the supply would continue unabated. Learn from history.

This is spot on.
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I can appreciate the engineering and performance in EVs, in C8 Corvettes, in 911s, etc. None of them excite me or make me want to own one. My POS 62 makes me smile when I drive it, and I don't need anything to make my "hands" look bigger. That's why Baskin Robbins has 31 flavors (which is actually 46 if you check their website right now).
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How about making cross country trips. Have to stop every 200 miles for an hour or so the recharge the batts makes a long trip even longer. Cost to produce all of the electricity needed will be astronomical.
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Its Jay Leno. The only one on the track. Big f++king deal a little water hit the track. Sure it was gone in a few minutes or less. This is not about drag racing a Tesla! New record for the quickest quarter-mile run in a production car. For 135,000. One million for a Ferrari, two and a half for a for a Veyron Bugatti

Love my huge 4 lane 1960-1970 HO slot car collection. Candy Blue Ferrari GT 250. Love that car, had the same one as a child. Wished I had a real one in that color!



How Tesla is quietly expanding its energy storage business.... https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/29/elon...-business.html There shall be enough power in our near future for EV. Being built right now!!!

Tesla Model S Range is 405 miles. As I always say give it 5 to 7 years. Changing time will be greatly reduced and range increase. Cybertruck from cheapest is 250 miles. Highest one get 500 miles. With talk of that being increased by a hundred or so, by release date. Their new battery and charging systems.

Supercharging stations being built now with solar and battery packs. Tesla EV trucks will also being charge there also.
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So you have an EV....nobody cares.
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They are so hell bent on electric cars, skip the battery b/s and go full on slot car on main routes & highways and a small battery for back roads.
I guess watching the slot car speeding down the track. Is why I like EVs.
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How about making cross country trips. Have to stop every 200 miles for an hour or so the recharge the batts makes a long trip even longer. Cost to produce all of the electricity needed will be astronomical.
Not when the source is solar or wind........... get over it, it's gonna happen........
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Your really inconsiderate if you know car is leaking alot going down the track and fluid is on entire 1/4 mile yet never pull out of groove and stop. Drips of fluid one track will not get you thrown out. I'll ask again where is the rule written that states you can NOT run air on any NHRA track? Simple question.

Anyone with half a functional brain knows a natural byproduct of running the A/C is condensation.

It is mentioned several times in both the general rules, and again in specific clas rules that a closed cooling system with at least one quart capacity is required. It use to be illegal to use antifreeze in the cooling system system, all in a effort to keep liquids off the track, and to ease cleanup if the cooling system did leak Pretty sure the track officials will see zero difference in legality of the radiator puking water onto the track, or water dripping from the A/C. Either way, the track official will tell you to fix it, or tell you to go home.


Anyone with the slightest consideration for the track and the people who want to use it should know to not do anything that might affect the track surface.

There are lots of things in everyday life that might not be in the rule or law books, and yet should be common sense.


things like warning labels telling people to remove the windshield sunscreen before driving the car.

Or this.

And this.

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Your really inconsiderate if you know car is leaking alot going down the track and fluid is on entire 1/4 mile yet never pull out of groove and stop. Drips of fluid one track will not get you thrown out. I'll ask again where is the rule written that states you can NOT run air on any NHRA track? Simple question.
Don't get mad when someone pounds on you for being dumb! Seen cars hit guard rail because loss of traction from water . There is rules you however must be that guy who can't read or ignore them . Most start line guys and catch you and track help . Yes I have seen guys ask to leave for this type of thing. Why do you think they will not let you run a cold can anymore. Now go argue with yourself.
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I guess watching the slot car speeding down the track. Is why I like EVs.
Now hot lap it, make sure the fire truck is ready for the battery fire.
And sorry the water on track is a big deal, at those speeds, it only take a millisecond for one wheel to lose traction and head for the wall.EVEN in a vehicle that is all nanny controlled. computer on wheels .

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Don't get mad when someone pounds on you for being dumb! Seen cars hit guard rail because loss of traction from water . There is rules you however must be that guy who can't read or ignore them . Most start line guys and catch you and track help . Yes I have seen guys ask to leave for this type of thing. Why do you think they will not let you run a cold can anymore. Now go argue with yourself.
I think I will argue with you instead. I'm not pounding my chest but i have been racing since 1977 did tech with a Gold Card Tech at a NHRA track for 2 years, became starter for 4, race director for 8 years. Common sense is dont run the air conditioner as it can make water and slows down performance. Arizona has such low humidity that condensation is not a problem. THE QUESTION ONCE AGAIN IS WHERE IS IT WRITTEN YOU CAN NOT RUN AIR ON A NHRA TRACK? Just answer the question or move along. I've seen cars hit the guardrail for lack of seat time, blowing up motors, trans lines breaking. Some drops on the track does not constitute crashing unless YOUR THAT GUY. If so take up another hobby. Some of you guys just amaze me. All I have done was ask a simple question and dont need lip service from someone who I'm sure has years less track time and passes down a track over the last 44 years then me. I will be at Wild Horse Pass in a couple hours moping up water drops and awaiting for your answer to the question.
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Originally Posted by wr1970
Don't get mad when someone pounds on you for being dumb! Seen cars hit guard rail because loss of traction from water . There is rules you however must be that guy who can't read or ignore them . Most start line guys and catch you and track help . Yes I have seen guys ask to leave for this type of thing. Why do you think they will not let you run a cold can anymore. Now go argue with yourself.
By the way cool cans are legal. I have one on my NHRA stock eliminator car. Know the rules before reciting them.
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By the way cool cans are legal. I have one on my NHRA stock eliminator car. Know the rules before reciting them.
Not at my track and yes it is a NHRA track.
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I think I will argue with you instead. I'm not pounding my chest but i have been racing since 1977 did tech with a Gold Card Tech at a NHRA track for 2 years, became starter for 4, race director for 8 years. Common sense is dont run the air conditioner as it can make water and slows down performance. Arizona has such low humidity that condensation is not a problem. THE QUESTION ONCE AGAIN IS WHERE IS IT WRITTEN YOU CAN NOT RUN AIR ON A NHRA TRACK? Just answer the question or move along. I've seen cars hit the guardrail for lack of seat time, blowing up motors, trans lines breaking. Some drops on the track does not constitute crashing unless YOUR THAT GUY. If so take up another hobby. Some of you guys just amaze me. All I have done was ask a simple question and dont need lip service from someone who I'm sure has years less track time and passes down a track over the last 44 years then me. I will be at Wild Horse Pass in a couple hours moping up water drops and awaiting for your answer to the question.
Well, I would not want to line up beside you. Water on track is a hazard to you and the guy in the other lane.
It is one thing if you stuff your ride into the wall from being a tool, but when you are risking, wrecking someone elses pride and joy, from being a Jack___. That is just being a selfish butt hole.
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Not at my track and yes it is a NHRA track.
My older 70's cool can that drained out the bottom and lid did not seal the water into the can was a nogo, but the newer can that has a ball valve drain, and a solid sealing lid, is fine.
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It is a local track rule then. Both tracks here allow them due to 105 plus degrees. At Divisional and National events across the country they are allowed. How is the location in writing on no a/c being on at a NHRA track coming.?
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Gainesville track. Read 2019 ground rules. Oh it is a NHRA track. No air conditioning on in staging lane to prevent water at starting line and down track. I wouldn't want to line up around you at any track.
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Gainesville track. Read 2019 ground rules. Oh it is a NHRA track. No air conditioning on in staging lane to prevent water at starting line and down track. I wouldn't want to line up around you at any track.
That is my point. Its local rule. The original statement said all NHRA track.
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That is my point. Its local rule. The original statement said all NHRA track.
You're the guy that in a run starts oil'n the track and won't pull out of the groove and oils down the track all the way to the turn off.
because there isn't a rule telling you not too.
Common sense = water on a track is bad, worse if it gets under a slick.
Do you have a NHRA comp. lic.
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Well, I would not want to line up beside you. Water on track is a hazard to you and the guy in the other lane.
It is one thing if you stuff your ride into the wall from being a tool, but when you are risking, wrecking someone elses pride and joy, from being a Jack___. That is just being a selfish butt hole.
I DO NOT WANT TO RUN AFTER SOMEONE PUT WATER ON THE TRACL EITHER. I'm waiting for where does it say in a NHRA rule book that it can not be on at NHRA track. Take your head out of your butthole and read my threads. I do not condone it. I dont throw people out for drops. I educate them to fix it. So go back and reread you will see I'm a safe driver on the track. SHOW ME THE RULE IN WRITING JACK.
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You're the guy that in a run starts oil'n the track and won't pull out of the groove and oils down the track all the way to the turn off.
because there isn't a rule telling you not too.
Common sense = water on a track is bad, worse if it gets under a slick.
Do you have a NHRA comp. lic.
Really reread my post I said its inconsiderate to put fluid down the track in the groove and not get off.Im not the a-hole to do that. Because I dont have a comp license, just a stock and super stock license does not make you any smarter. I DO NOT WANT WATER ON THE TRACK FOR F-SAKE. SHOW ME THE RULE STATING NO AIR BEING ON AT A NHRA TRACK. I'm sure your comp license brain can find it for me and post it or PM it to me as I only have a s/as licences and for the life of me cannot find it in the rule book OP.
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All of this talk about electric vehicles, solar panels and electricity shortages if we all convert to electric someday is interesting, so I decided to do some research and to do some math.

If the normal Tesla Model S has a 100kWh battery and a range of 405 miles, you would need about 250kWh per month to drive 1000 miles which was a fairly typical distance for most Americans before the pandemic.

Now let's talk about electricity usage. The average American home uses 877kWh per month according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. So right away, each electric car in your household is adding about a 30% increase in electricity demand on your household. That is significant but not outrageous.

Now let's consider that you want to power your car by solar alone. Modern solar panels output between 250W and 370W per hour. Going with the low end, the formula for output is as follows:
Solar Panel Watts x Average Hours of Sunlight x .75 = Daily Watt Hours

The average number of hours of sunlight per day in Texas where I live is 5 hours. So one solar panel would generate:
250W x 5hrs x .75 = 937.5 daily watt hours = 0.94kWh per day

For this exercise, let's round this to 1kWh per day. Over 30 days, you could get 30kWh out of one solar panel, but we need 250kWh per month to charge the Tesla. The math is easy enough. Divide 250 by 30, and we get 8.33 panels. Again, let's round that up to 9 panels.

How much area is that? Typical residential solar panel dimensions today are about 65 inches by 39 inches, or 5.4 feet by 3.25 feet, or 17.55 ft. sq. The 9 panels would be 157.95 ft. sq. or roughly a 16'x10' area on your roof. Again, this is not insignificant, but it is not unreasonable at all.

Obviously, in order to get that electricity to your car, you will need some intermediate storage like Tesla's battery wall, and no one is suggesting that solar panels and battery walls are cheap; but the actual electrical demands are not unreasonable.

For comparisons sake, I decided to look at the Energy Star Rating of my KitchenAid refrigerator. The estimated yearly electricity use of my fridge is 767kWh. Were I to have a Tesla (which I do not) and if I were to drive it 12,000 miles per year (which I am not nearly driving that much these days), the Tesla by comparison would use about 3000kWh per year, or the equivalent of 3.9 KitchenAid refrigerators.

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Originally Posted by NTXOlds
All of this talk about electric vehicles, solar panels and electricity shortages if we all convert to electric someday is interesting, so I decided to do some research and to do some math.

If the normal Tesla Model S has a 100kWh battery and a range of 405 miles, you would need about 250kWh per month to drive 1000 miles which was a fairly typical distance for most Americans before the pandemic.

Now let's talk about electricity usage. The average American home uses 877kWh per month according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. So right away, each electric car in your household is adding about a 30% increase in electricity demand on your household. That is significant but not outrageous.

Now let's consider that you want to power your car by solar alone. Modern solar panels output between 250W and 370W per hour. Going with the low end, the formula for output is as follows:
Solar Panel Watts x Average Hours of Sunlight x .75 = Daily Watt Hours

The average number of hours of sunlight per day in Texas where I live is 5 hours. So one solar panel would generate:
250W x 5hrs x .75 = 937.5 daily watt hours = 0.94kWh per day

For this exercise, let's round this to 1kWh per day. Over 30 days, you could get 30kWh out of one solar panel, but we need 250kWh per month to charge the Tesla. The math is easy enough. Divide 250 by 30, and we get 8.33 panels. Again, let's round that up to 9 panels.

How much area is that? Typical residential solar panel dimensions today are about 65 inches by 39 inches, or 5.4 feet by 3.25 feet, or 17.55 ft. sq. The 9 panels would be 157.95 ft. sq. or roughly a 16'x10' area on your roof. Again, this is not insignificant, but it is not unreasonable at all.

Obviously, in order to get that electricity to your car, you will need some intermediate storage like Tesla's battery wall, and no one is suggesting that solar panels and battery walls are cheap; but the actual electrical demands are not unreasonable.

For comparisons sake, I decided to look at the Energy Star Rating of my KitchenAid refrigerator. The estimated yearly electricity use of my fridge is 767kWh. Were I to have a Tesla (which I do not) and if I were to drive it 12,000 miles per year (which I am not nearly driving that much these days), the Tesla by comparison would use about 3000kWh per year, or the equivalent of 3.9 KitchenAid refrigerators.
That is great info. I dont remember the output of only 1 solar panel that I use at the track.I try not to be the noisy one after racing so late at night. So I connect my solar panel to race car and when the sun comes up and everyone is sleeping I'm changing car with no generator. I can do time trials, first 2 rounds if I'm winning and then convert to generator power. I actually would like to do more panels as i have room on my ramp truck. I will get output and use your math to see where i stand. Thanks for the info.
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Funny how threads can take such a turn.

Post was about the impressive power of instant power Electric Vehicles. Unreal how fast Electric Vehicles will all become. Technology is real.

That said. For anyone that has experienced American cubic inch horsepower. There is never a substitute for that. I love the feel of dialing in a car. That will never leave me.

Comment early in this thread about the lack of styling in a Tesla. So so so plain. My Dad's neighbor just bought a brand new white four door. ZERO ZERO styling. Maybe it is just the white color. I love white cars don't get me wrong. His 100k+ car looks like a lame grocery getter.

We all need to get used to change. Product of living.



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