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Old May 15, 2023 | 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Vintage Chief
John is correct you need an amp clamp. But, I believe you’re missing the major point. If the ONLY way you can check your starter electrical cables, terminal ends and attachment points is to drop your headers and remove your starter then go for it. The ABSOLUTE first place to evaluate is your battery ground to block (-) cable. No loose bolts clean and healthy. Exact same for the (+) cable. Inspect the cables themselves. Cut them open at the ends. You can also measure resistance to get a notion but the POINT is to FIRST validate electrical cabling. This is not that difficult. Current flows through wires, check the wires in your starter circuitry. The ground is achieved via the starter attachment bolts. Are they tight and clean? Starter terminal (+) cable securely attached and clean? You need solid connections with good cabling. That is the point.
Norm, I don't need to remove the headers to get the starter out. However, I will need to remove the starter to check the connections at the starter. In addition, I will check the + and - battery cables for tightness and cleanliness. My question is this though...if it were a cable/connection issue, then why would it be an intermittent issue? You stated above that a starter isn't a go/no-go component, so unless the starter is actually bad, how would a cable/connection issue be the problem? Those pesky electrons aren't going to move one time and stop the next...

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Old May 15, 2023 | 03:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 72455
...how would a cable/connection issue be the problem? Those pesky electrons aren't going to go move one time and stop the next...
Heat, vibration & electrolysis.
Old May 15, 2023 | 04:22 AM
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I have a golf tee time I need to get going. Sometimes this can be a concern...something to consider, is all. Like any electrical circuit...you draw current based on demand. If the current is leaking you can have an issue and not draw the correct amperage. After-market devices, faulty or incorrect wiring can cause leaking circuitry. Example: your A/C kicks on at the house you notice a large draw-down on all the lights in your house. If you had the clothes washer, clothes dryer, dishwasher, computers, hair dryers, air compressor in the garage, power washer, etc., etc. all running at the same time you might notice this large draw-down; or, you may not - that draw-down will occur when other devices create a demand. If the ground wire to the main service panel is heavily corroded, this can be an issue. If you have anything incorrectly wired in the starter circuit which might create demand this can be an issue. Electricity will always find the closest path to ground; and, this may not always be the correct path to ground. I'm not trying to send you down a rabbit hole here, just providing you some food for thought on the importance of solid electrical connections and wiring.
Old May 19, 2023 | 03:31 AM
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I finally got a chance to troubleshoot. The first thing I did was check the battery terminals, and discovered the + was loose enough to move by hand. Tightened it up and so far all is good.

As always, thanks to everyone for their advice.
Old May 19, 2023 | 04:19 AM
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I finally got a chance to troubleshoot. The first thing I did was check the battery terminals, and discovered the + was loose enough to move by hand. Tightened it up and so far all is good.

As always, thanks to everyone for their advice.
The truly absolute most simple things, eh? A lot to be said when someone asks about an electric item which isn't functioning "...are you sure it's plugged into the wall socket..."? Glad you found the issue.
Old May 19, 2023 | 03:16 PM
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I'm not so sure that will solve the grinding problem, but I hope so.
Old May 27, 2023 | 12:53 PM
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Well, since I tightened up the terminal, I've had no further issues, so I'm calling it good. In the midst of all this, I did get another starter from Rock Auto, so I'll have a spare.
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