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Old January 19th, 2021, 01:30 PM
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Seven Oldsmobile 442s Set for Saturday at Rick Treworgy's Muscle Car City Auction


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Boy there is some nice iron there

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Not too many things wrong with the 67. The H/O clone was fairly well executed with a few misses, and of course the 350.
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Not too many things wrong with the 67. The H/O clone was fairly well executed with a few misses, and of course the 350.
I agree. Go thru all that to build a clone and 350 it... What the?
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With everything as "No Reserve" and so many similar cars within makes and models, I am guessing that a few people are going to get some pretty sweet deals.

I am interested in seeing the 68 convertible on stage. The photos do not show it very well, and I am very interested in painting my 68 Cutlass the same color, Nocturne Blue. It looks unimpressive in these photos.
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I toured this museum several years ago and it was awesome. At that time he had a red 64 442 convertible. I guess it has been sold.
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***** I think I hear my real 72 H/O sobbing out there in the garage as a clone sold for more than it by a lot! Damn, that's high. High on all of them, I think.
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Thanks for posting the results!

Based on the Kissimmee prices, and now these, many of us might want to think about increasing the values of our insurance coverage!
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Old January 25th, 2021, 04:54 PM
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***** I think I hear my real 72 H/O sobbing out there in the garage as a clone sold for more than it by a lot! Damn, that's high. High on all of them, I think.
That seemed a bit strange to me as well Koda, and despite the limited description, it is a U code convertible. Perhaps when they utilized the term ‘replica’ they in fact meant it is a true ‘pace car replica’, not a ‘clone’ - if that makes any sense. (We know that they’re ‘replicas’ except for the actual pace car, then you have track, parade, and courtesy cars, etc) Like to see paperwork /cowl tag.


Edit: Anyway you slice it, poor wording and incorrect description. Looks to have its U code 455 not a 350 as described




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The prices of Olds 442's have really spiked the 6 months. As an owner, it seems like a pleasant surprise, especially during Covid. I read an article that people with money are once again drifting to the suburbs, looking for larger homes with sizeable garage space. Maybe that helps to push some to purchase muscle cars.
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***** I think I hear my real 72 H/O sobbing out there in the garage as a clone sold for more than it by a lot! Damn, that's high. High on all of them, I think.
I agree.
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The prices of Olds 442's have really spiked the 6 months. As an owner, it seems like a pleasant surprise, especially during Covid. I read an article that people with money are once again drifting to the suburbs, looking for larger homes with sizeable garage space. Maybe that helps to push some to purchase muscle cars.
We will see what happens once gasoline cars become illegal or they tax the gas so much it forces us to go electric. Green new deal baby! what a crock
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Did anybody read the disclaimer in the listings for most of these cars ?

" All cars being offered at the Muscle car city auction have been set up for long term museum display .
Please note that any car purchased from this auction will likely require essential basic service prior to driving on the road including but not limited to fuel systems , carburetors , batteries , brakes , etc . All cars are being offered at no reserve and will be sold as is / where is . "

50 to 100 thousand dollars is a lot to pay for a car that you have to tow home .

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Charlie I saw that disclosure. I toured that museum a few years ago and I know at that time most of the cars were running because he would take them out and drive them. He is not a young guy but not what I consider and old guy since I am 74. I don't know why he closed the museum. Maybe it was health, maybe it was money or maybe it just got to be too much. It was a very nice bunch of cars and the guy did love 4-speed cars.
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Crazy as it sounds, the Oldsmobiles might’ve been deals relative to the money spent on Ricks other cars


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We will see what happens once gasoline cars become illegal or they tax the gas so much it forces us to go electric. Green new deal baby! what a crock

I bet you people talked like this about their horses when horseless carriages started to show up....
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Originally Posted by scrappie
We will see what happens once gasoline cars become illegal or they tax the gas so much it forces us to go electric. Green new deal baby! what a crock
Gasoline burning cars being banned is decades off if ever. Maybe California the green state can lead the way but I think that is far away from happening. Just my opinion.
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I never thought horses would catch on, who brought those stupid things over here anyways?
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I bet you people talked like this about their horses when horseless carriages started to show up....
Yeah probably I used to think change was good but now Im like my father.
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The 68 442 convertible was a $35k car at best. People are just stupid

This is what happens when a record amount of investor money is sitting outside the stock market waiting for a crash
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Old January 27th, 2021, 06:20 AM
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Buying a 1969 Cutlass S I sure hope they get dragged up in value on the 442 coatails. Sure is hard to find a value for a nice S.
The disclaimer makes senses, my car has sat for several years, Im assuming I need to address all the listed issues in the disclosure.
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Hey Mike whenever that day comes and you sell your car, the new care taker and yourself come to terms on the price.Would you call the new care taker of your car stupid because he gave you what you accepted? As we all know this has been a very unusual "season" and a lot of things have already changed some of them permanently. For various reasons in peoples lives there is money out there being spent. During the last 14 months I thinned the herd due to my downsizing objective and have sold 3 classics. Here in the Dallas area new construction-houses, apartments, freeways, toll road expansion, office towers and new business relocations has gone crazy ONCE again-this is not something new in the Lone Star state. Good luck finding your dream home if your on a time line. In general you do not make an offer on a house, you have a bid on it with other buyers.Most homes sell within a week or sooner.
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Hey Mike whenever that day comes and you sell your car, the new care taker and yourself come to terms on the price.Would you call the new care taker of your car stupid because he gave you what you accepted?
I call them stupid when I research selling price and see that they paid almost twice what the going rate is for a car in similar condition. I follow 68's pretty closely. The buyer of this car certainly didn't. You're correct, if I sold my car for that much I wouldn't call the buyer stupid, I'd call them a sucker.....lol

FWIW the term "caretaker" is typically reserved for those owners' of cars which are viewed as benchmarks of the industry. They are cars that are truly investments, not "drivers". This particular car certainly doesn't need a caretaker and neither will mine.

Your analogy to the housing market is well placed. I lived through the late 80's bubble and the early 90's crash, the late 90's to 2000's bubble, and the 2008 crash. I've always been fortunate because I do an exorbitant amount of research prior to buying and selling real estate. I don't understand why classic car buyers don't do the same.

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We will see what happens once gasoline cars become illegal or they tax the gas so much it forces us to go electric. Green new deal baby! what a crock

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I predict that every single one of these cars will never sell for those prices again. I love my Oldsmobiles don't get me wrong. People spending stupid money. I don't get what is fueling the crazy prices for Oldsmobiles. People are paying more for Oldsmobiles than Buick GS's. GTO's and plenty of rare Chevelles etc. If it is just people with disposable income I sure hope you aren't counting on those prices going up by 25k. Seems so odd to me but...
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I thought that I saw the red, 1970 442 convertible, 4 speed, factory air convertible sold for $70,000.00?? I thought that was a good price for the condition of the car, and the car was heavily optioned. I'm still looking.

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