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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 08:35 AM
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Running car inside garage

Anyone ever use something like this? With the door port, of course.

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Might be nice for this weather. And it would help warm the space as I work. Are they safe?
Old Jan 9, 2015 | 08:41 AM
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It's great ... if you're certain your exhaust has no leaks.
Old Jan 9, 2015 | 08:45 AM
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Certain? Well...ummm....er.......
Old Jan 9, 2015 | 09:10 AM
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These are common in garages across the country. Typically there is a connection on the overhead door that the hose will attach to to funnel the gases outside.
They are safe when used as designed but they don't account for exhaust leaks or dumbass humans
Old Jan 9, 2015 | 09:11 AM
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Your link did not work for me, but I did manage to find the hose on Amazon.

I have/use one, albeit a single hose for a single exhaust system. And yes, I also have a door port. I do not think you will find it works at all well/good as a space heating device.

The fact I am typing this should be an indication I have not died from carbon monoxide poisoning?
Old Jan 9, 2015 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TripDeuces
These are common in garages across the country. Typically there is a connection on the overhead door that the hose will attach to to funnel the gases outside.
They are safe when used as designed but they don't account for exhaust leaks or dumbass humans
Trying to tell me something, Trip? JK, JK, lol.

Originally Posted by D. Yaros
Your link did not work for me, but I did manage to find the hose on Amazon.

I have/use one, albeit a single hose for a single exhaust system. And yes, I also have a door port. I do not think you will find it works at all well/good as a space heating device.

The fact I am typing this should be an indication I have not died from carbon monoxide poisoning?
Space heating isn't the purpose; more of a benefit. I have a fairly small space and I already know that pulling the car in after a drive can raise the temp about 15 degrees. But that was a 30 degree day with little to no wind. Right now it's 5 degrees with 40 mph winds! But either way, it would be better than having the door open.

Is there a good way to check for leaks? It's a new system but I did put it on myself using plain 'ol U-bolt clamps. Can I seal it with high temp silicone or would that be a mistake in the long run?
Old Jan 9, 2015 | 01:00 PM
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That wasn't directed toward you. It's just the general population seems to be pretty mindless and they always start law suits over stuff they should be held accountable for rather than throw it back on the manufacturer.

I used to check leaks with my hand and ear. If you can hear it or feel it it's leaking. Personally I tend to open the garage door every so often or if you get the slightest of headaches (carbon monoxide poisoning). Better safe than sorry.

I know what you mean about the cold. I went out to the garage yesterday and it was in the teens with 45-50 mph gusts. Soon as I put the wrench in my hand it was painful it was so cold
Old Jan 9, 2015 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TripDeuces
That wasn't directed toward you. It's just the general population seems to be pretty mindless and they always start law suits over stuff they should be held accountable for rather than throw it back on the manufacturer.

I used to check leaks with my hand and ear. If you can hear it or feel it it's leaking. Personally I tend to open the garage door every so often or if you get the slightest of headaches (carbon monoxide poisoning). Better safe than sorry.

I know what you mean about the cold. I went out to the garage yesterday and it was in the teens with 45-50 mph gusts. Soon as I put the wrench in my hand it was painful it was so cold
No, I know you weren't talking about me, I was just horsing around. I know what you mean though. I did a google search for the hoses and all I got was pages of hits on people dying while they warmed their cars in the garage with the door shut. I was honestly really surprised.

Nothing hurts like smacking your knuckles when your hands are freezing.

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Old Jan 9, 2015 | 11:37 PM
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If I did this I would invest in a very good and very sensitive carbon monoxide detector, definitely not an area that you cut corners and buy the cheap model.
Old Jan 10, 2015 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by orange442
If I did this I would invest in a very good and very sensitive carbon monoxide detector, definitely not an area that you cut corners and buy the cheap model.
Now that's a good idea! Thanks 442. Honestly, these hoses are a little pricier than I had anticipated. I'm going to see how much time I have after this new semester gets under way, then decide.
Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:31 AM
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If I did this I would invest in a very good and very sensitive carbon monoxide detector, definitely not an area that you cut corners and buy the cheap model.
I'm not saying that this is a bad idea, but I don't think it would be practical.

In the real world, the vast majority of older cars probably have very small exhaust leaks, and they would probably be enough to trip the CO alarm.

It is unlikely that you would be running the car for very long at a time (you wouldn't be in there for hours with the car running), and also unlikely that the garage is a sealed structure, so the small amount of CO that will inevitably be released into the garage while the car is running should have no trouble getting out.

Obviously, if you develop a headache or feel tired while working on the car, you should step outside immediately.

The key thing that separates you from the average person who gasses himself by running the car / generator / barbeque / space heater indoors is that you will be in the garage only temporarily, and you will be up, moving, and awake the whole time, so you will be able to notice any early signs of CO exposure.

People at risk (in an environment where you are not trapped, and where you are aware that CO may be in the air) are those who are resting / relaxing / napping / sleeping. For this reason, if you have an attached garage, you need to be very careful about running the car for extended periods, even with the door open, because a person sleeping inside the house (or you, later that night, if the house is well sealed) could be poisoned by seeping CO without realizing it.

CO doesn't kill you dead like a thunderclap, like in the RAID ads, but affects you gradually and gives you plenty of time to respond.
CO exposure CAN be cumulative in the short term, though, so if you are exposed to enough to affect you every day for a week or two, you may find yourself thinking and reacting more slowly, and if the exposure goes on for a long period, some of the damage may be irreversible.

- Eric
Old Jan 10, 2015 | 09:06 PM
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"and also unlikely that the garage is a sealed structure"

You can say THAT again. :-/

" if you develop a headache or feel tired while working on the car"

If I didn't have a headache or feel tired while working, THEN I'd be worried.

" if you have an attached garage, you need to be very careful"

Nope, not attached.

All good points, Eric. Thanks for the input.
Old Jan 10, 2015 | 11:11 PM
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Check to make sure your life insurance is paid up.
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by z11375ss
Check to make sure your life insurance is paid up.
Your meaning isn't clear.

Are you suggesting that if he runs the car for half an hour with a hose carrying the exhaust fumes out of the garage, he's going to die?

- Eric
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Your meaning isn't clear.

Are you suggesting that if he runs the car for half an hour with a hose carrying the exhaust fumes out of the garage, he's going to die?

- Eric
Would you bet your life, and possibly the lives of others, that said hose will without fail carry the exhaust fumes out of the garage?
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 07:00 AM
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I worked briefly at a garage. One of the other guys put a hose on his project's tailpipe but it was far from the door so the other end was near me instead of outdoors. He was smoking me out. So I moved the hose exit over to blow on him instead. He got all pissy about it so I pointed out that I don't appreciate it either and ps how about adding a length and directing that to the outside of the building, "sir".

Properly intoned with sarcasm, "sir" = "dumba$$" of course.
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 08:04 AM
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Would you bet your life, and possibly the lives of others, that said hose will without fail carry the exhaust fumes out of the garage?
I routinely bet my life, and those of others, on my tires, lug nuts, brake pads, calipers, rotors, and lines, on my ball joints, tie rods, and steering U-joints, on my brake pedal pivot shaft, and, should it come to that, on my seat belts.

I also bet my life on my stove, my heating unit, my electrical wiring and breaker boxes, the texture on the bottom of my bathtub, and on the soles of my boots, so, yes, I'd take that bet.

I'm glad that your life is entirely without risk in the bubble that you live in, though. I hope it's nice and warm in there.

- Eric
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 01:33 PM
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I use these style of hoses daily they are as useful as the person using them. My only caution to you is to check them often as they can fall off the tail pipe. Open the doors once in awhile if your in there all day

Some days I come home with a head ache and very moody as my kids would say. I drink a glass of milk and with in a half hr or so I feel much better
Old Jan 11, 2015 | 04:41 PM
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Check to make sure your life insurance is paid up.
That's my wife's job. And she's very good at it

Didn't mean to stir things up fellas. My theory is that we're all grumpy because the Cowboys lost.

If I DO end up using these hoses, I'll do it with my usual amount of smarts and caution and only for short periods. No worries.
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 12:06 PM
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The long and short of the conversation is that garages everywhere use those on a daily basis. Running it can create a siphon effect that reduces the output of pin hole exhaust leaks, but it's not a good idea to rely on that. If your exhaust system is without noticeable leaks, this should be able to move your exhaust gases outside. Naturally, it's not intended for long runs, and running any combustion indoors requires a fresh air source. Exhaust has other gases than CO, and they're very noticeable. If you smell any exhaust gas, stop the engine and ventilate the area. It's worth mentioning that even with this hose working perfectly and your exhaust system air tight ... a leaky weather strip at the bottom of the door, an air vent or window near the outlet and you can still be left breathless.
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 02:20 PM
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Well said, Prof.
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 02:36 PM
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Crack a window or something to have a fresh are intake somewhere in the garage, especially if it is attached and/or built tight. All that exhaust going out the hose has to get in the carb somehow, and a leaky garage door could be sucking back in what you just put outside.
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Your meaning isn't clear.

Are you suggesting that if he runs the car for half an hour with a hose carrying the exhaust fumes out of the garage, he's going to die?

- Eric
Yes.
Old Jan 12, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
I routinely bet my life, and those of others, on my tires, lug nuts, brake pads, calipers, rotors, and lines, on my ball joints, tie rods, and steering U-joints, on my brake pedal pivot shaft, and, should it come to that, on my seat belts.

I also bet my life on my stove, my heating unit, my electrical wiring and breaker boxes, the texture on the bottom of my bathtub, and on the soles of my boots, so, yes, I'd take that bet.

I'm glad that your life is entirely without risk in the bubble that you live in, though. I hope it's nice and warm in there.

- Eric
That argument is specious at best. You don't play with matches near gasoline is all I'm saying. There's too much risk. That's the key factor here. Risk. Don't take too much of it, because it will eventually bite you in the ***.
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