Rumor has it ...smdh
December 21st, 2016, 10:45 AM
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Rumor has it ...smdh
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Oldsmob...m=162325039115
Hurst prototype w/out a Hurst shifter. It's got a sticker on the dashboard. Looks legit.
Hurst prototype w/out a Hurst shifter. It's got a sticker on the dashboard. Looks legit.
December 21st, 2016, 11:13 AM
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I thought the Hurst/Olds was not built in 1971. It was a dodge challenger that year? Big accident on track at Indy with the challenger pace car and Olds stepped up for 1972 again?
I Remember a photo of the challenger driver losing control on the track.
I Remember a photo of the challenger driver losing control on the track.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Oldsmob...m=162325039115
Hurst prototype w/out a Hurst shifter. It's got a sticker on the dashboard. Looks legit.
Hurst prototype w/out a Hurst shifter. It's got a sticker on the dashboard. Looks legit.
December 21st, 2016, 11:15 AM
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Actually There were no Hurst Olds for 70 or 71. Last made in 69. 70 pace car was sponsored by Olds. 71 was Dodge with the Challenger. Word is after the accident no manufacturer wanted to touch the Pace Car duties so Hurst stepped in with the Hurst Olds.
December 21st, 2016, 11:22 AM
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December 21st, 2016, 11:23 AM
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Quote: Rumor has it that this particular 1971 Oldsmobile Cutlass is actually the 3rd of 25 prototypes built for the 1972 Oldsmobile Hurst/Olds Pace Car.
Rumor? Fine way to build mystery for some "roll the dice" buyer.
Rumor? Fine way to build mystery for some "roll the dice" buyer.
December 21st, 2016, 11:26 AM
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December 21st, 2016, 11:29 AM
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Besides that, why on earth would they need to make 25 prototypes of cars they were only adding accessories to?
& the consignment dealer can disclaim all info if from the owner. Plausible deniability.
December 21st, 2016, 12:17 PM
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Why would Hurst build an H/O without the FE-2 suspension? Why would 1975 type SS-II rims be used? But most of all, it is highly unlikely Hurst would install a pedestal spoiler on this convertible style. The flat trunked '69 convertible, yes, but not the 70-72 convertible body style with it's mini fins. The spoiler disrupts the convertible's beautifully designed lines. If any spoiler was used, it would probably had been a duck tail style, the type supposedly mounted on the trunk of the black '70 H/O "prototype".
December 21st, 2016, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Gateway Classic Cars
This vehicle is "For Sale by Owner," displayed at Gateway Classic Cars, who is acting only as a Sales Agent. The Company is not making any representations as to the condition and/or the value of this vehicle. Gateway Classic Cars has not checked the condition (mechanical or structural), mileage or authenticity of this vehicle and is relying on the information provided by the seller. The company is not responsible for omissions and/or errors in advertising this vehicle and will hold the Company harmless from all future claims arising from any representations made by the Seller.
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This Vehicle is owned by the Company, however, the Company is not making any representations as to the condition, authenticity, mileage or originality of this vehicle. The Company is not issuing any warranties, verbal or written and is not responsible for any omissions or errors in advertising. The Customer is relying solely on his/her own inspection, knowledge and judgment on this vehicle.
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This Vehicle is owned by the Company, however, the Company is not making any representations as to the condition, authenticity, mileage or originality of this vehicle. The Company is not issuing any warranties, verbal or written and is not responsible for any omissions or errors in advertising. The Customer is relying solely on his/her own inspection, knowledge and judgment on this vehicle.
December 21st, 2016, 05:28 PM
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December 21st, 2016, 08:57 PM
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Yeah, reminds me of a "GTO Judge" I saw once saw in a parking lot that had a bench seat and column shifter. Somebody had slapped a GTO front clip, including the ram air hood w/integrated tach, onto a LeMans and painted it orange with the (in)appropriate decals.
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December 22nd, 2016, 04:20 AM
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"This Vehicle is owned by the Company, however, the Company is not making any representations as to the condition, authenticity, mileage or originality of this vehicle. The Company is not issuing any warranties, verbal or written and is not responsible for any omissions or errors in advertising. The Customer is relying solely on his/her own inspection, knowledge and judgment on this vehicle"
Why is this cutting my text above this whole time?
Why is this cutting my text above this whole time?
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Ill try on this message, somehow this twice cutted my text under that quote when i pressed reply.. Weird.
Anyways. That quoted part sounds legit. So, they can build whatever story they want to aid their sales. More rare the car, the easier it is to build a story to support sales. Theres very few guys that would know the real story behind the story. Especially if theyd be clever enough to build the story in way, that you could find few mentions from google search from here and there, but nothing that could verify stories to side or another.
And then when the new guy comes here boasting about his new rare classic, he founds out hes been cheated. The selling Company then just lifts their hands in the air, and tell him that he should have himself verified the story what Company was feeding to him..
Sounds legit. Wouldnt do any commerce with those.
Anyways. That quoted part sounds legit. So, they can build whatever story they want to aid their sales. More rare the car, the easier it is to build a story to support sales. Theres very few guys that would know the real story behind the story. Especially if theyd be clever enough to build the story in way, that you could find few mentions from google search from here and there, but nothing that could verify stories to side or another.
And then when the new guy comes here boasting about his new rare classic, he founds out hes been cheated. The selling Company then just lifts their hands in the air, and tell him that he should have himself verified the story what Company was feeding to him..
Sounds legit. Wouldnt do any commerce with those.
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December 22nd, 2016, 05:45 AM
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Might just be me since I'm using a cell phone but there appears to be a poorly fitted ps fender, above the rear bumper seems to be a gap that gets larger as you look from drivers side to passenger side and look at where the front bumper meets the eyebrow trim. Not even. Drivers side has huge gap and passenger side doesn't. Accident car? Twisted frame? Or just me using a small screen?
December 22nd, 2016, 11:16 AM
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December 22nd, 2016, 02:53 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1971-Oldsmob...m=162325039115
Hurst prototype w/out a Hurst shifter. It's got a sticker on the dashboard. Looks legit.
Hurst prototype w/out a Hurst shifter. It's got a sticker on the dashboard. Looks legit.
See link
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December 22nd, 2016, 08:45 PM
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Do you know for a fact it was a clone? Or are you simply unaware that the configuration you describe was possible?
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