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One of 729. Who doesn't love the seats. The only thing that would make it better would be the base three-on-the-tree. The alignment of the trunk emblem raises questions, however.
Is that a factory color?
And is the brocade insert in the seat the original fabric?
My first 70 S had a gold bench with brocade...but the patter was very different.
That is a beautiful car. I agree that I would hate to see it become another fake 4-4-2, but is there really much value in keeping it the way it is or restoring it to factory original?
Would anyone be terribly opposed if the next owner dropped in an Olds 350 or 455 as long as they left it as a Cutlass?
That is a beautiful car. I agree that I would hate to see it become another fake 4-4-2, but is there really much value in keeping it the way it is or restoring it to factory original?
Would anyone be terribly opposed if the next owner dropped in an Olds 350 or 455 as long as they left it as a Cutlass?
I would save the original drivetrain and go to town. That is a very unique car.
It's only original once. This is why you don't see them today. Swapping engines brings a lot of collateral damage if you want to do it right. The Olds starter is on the driver's side, so battery tray has to swap sides, wiring changes as a result, new radiator, etc, etc. I think even the trans needs to change. Sure you can do it, but then it just becomes another hot-rodded Cutlass like every other one you see.
It's only original once. This is why you don't see them today. Swapping engines brings a lot of collateral damage if you want to do it right. The Olds starter is on the driver's side, so battery tray has to swap sides, wiring changes as a result, new radiator, etc, etc. I think even the trans needs to change. Sure you can do it, but then it just becomes another hot-rodded Cutlass like every other one you see.
Very solid explanation as we have come to expect from you, Joe.
Your reasoning is also why I bought a very used 68 Cutlass with a 2bbl that had seen better days. While I owned 4-4-2s in the past, I did not want to drive around a show car or museum piece. I wanted something I could tinker with, have fun with and make my own without having to be concerned about hurting its value.
The 70 Cutlass in question is quite nice, so let's hope it goes to someone who keeps it that way.
I grew up in basically the seventies and eighties. I grew up at the perfect time for muscle cars. I saw every single type of car on the road. You name it. I have only seen one other six cylinder Cutlass ever. That car was a three on the tree. This car survived Because of the six. Super nice car. Hell you can make that six scoot better than you might think with very few simple changes. You can make that motor run.
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I grew up in basically the seventies and eighties. I grew up at the perfect time for muscle cars. I saw every single type of car on the road. You name it. I have only seen one other six cylinder Cutlass ever. That car was a three on the tree. This car survived Because of the six. Super nice car.
I've seen a number of them. A friend of mine has a 1969 F85 with the six. My dad bought a 1965 F85 Club Coupe with V6 and three on the tree brand new.
Joe um.... Ok bet I have damn near 100 percent of the forum behind me saying that you have been around more Oldsmobiles than any of us. Ha ha.
I actually have always had a thing for stripper cars. One of my favorite old Oldsmobiles that sat near my house as a kid was a total stripper 70 442. All black car. Bench seat column shift. Flat hood. Steel wheels. Zero options. Zero. Sat sunk in the dirt in front of this house until one day it was gone. This was probably 77ish. Today if that car was still around it would be a W-30 with gold stripes and every option. I miss people leaving stuff as it came.
sounds like one of my drivers ed cars,the one we used was 4 dr and 3 on the tree,bare minimum
Not a Oldsmobile but My dad had a 1963 Chevy Biscayne Radio Delete, no power steering no power brakes and a 230 cid 6 with a 3 on the tree, rubber floor mats, I learned to drive on a 66 Catalina but that 63 Biscayne turned out to be my first stick car, first thing I did was install a cheap *** Kraco cassette radio !!!