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Old October 21st, 2020 | 04:01 AM
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Proper Use of Exhaust Cutouts

Not mine. The bidding on some cars amazes me. Is this a '70 with a '71 rear bumper, or a '71 car?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-Oldsmo...%7C1000%7C2500
Old October 21st, 2020 | 04:42 AM
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The ad describes it as a gorgeous restoration, give me a break! Hodgepodge restoration more like it! Built by Johnny Cash.
Old October 21st, 2020 | 04:45 AM
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Passanger front fender is from a 70, driver 71-72, rear seat 71-72 , front seat not correct pattern,
Old October 21st, 2020 | 04:59 AM
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Steering wheel is 72, front bumper is 71-72, door panels 71-72, sport mirrors 71-72, don’t seem like the correct trim rings, dash appliqué is 71, the list goes on.....
Old October 21st, 2020 | 05:01 AM
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front bumper looks like someone pulled on the bottom rt, plastic trim coming off rt side of dash. all it takes to get the price up is 2 people that want it or a few friends to shill.
Old October 21st, 2020 | 05:08 AM
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Those exhaust outlets, under that bumper - Uuuggglleeee.
Old October 21st, 2020 | 05:46 AM
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69 hood tooth???
Old October 21st, 2020 | 06:23 AM
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69 hood tooth???
Well, it's a 71/72 front bumper, so that may be a 70 tooth. What a cluster!
Old October 21st, 2020 | 08:26 AM
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Old October 21st, 2020 | 08:48 AM
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Front wheel well trim incorrect - not the short Supreme style. Maybe they just used what was on donor fenders that were used to replace the original fenders?

I could let a lot of that stuff slide, but the mangled hood tooth is just nasty looking.
Old October 21st, 2020 | 12:52 PM
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Im most impressed by the dash trim hanging loose on the passenger side. What a half-*** car
Old October 21st, 2020 | 01:47 PM
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If the car was presented as it is, we’d all agree it’s a hodgepodge, a poorly assembled group of 70 - 72 parts on a convertible cutlass four-speed. Certainly a very far cry from a “gorgeous restoration”

However, a convertible cutlass four-speed has inherent value, so lets blame Dealer Dan in Lakeland for over selling it - and that’s putting it mildly.

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Old October 21st, 2020 | 02:26 PM
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GAH...zero money shots! 47 thousand shots of the top side. Cut and run restoration.
Maybe when you live in Florida it's just assumed there isn't any rot/rust?
I want to see all the seams and frame.

Trumpet bumper....what not to do.
It's a Cutlass. Tuck the tips under the bumper and hide them where they belong. Talk about corner-cutting.
At least it's not rebadged as a 442!

This car is worth perhaps 10, 12G.... only IF its a factory 4 speed and IF its 99% desert or inland Florida rust-free and IF nothings bent.

Watch it will go 18, 20K to an uneducated buyer, it sure does look like a Gorgeous Restoration! (cut n run). Gotta love the auctions.
Old October 21st, 2020 | 03:31 PM
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It looks that bad in pictures can you imagine what it looks like in person?
Old October 24th, 2020 | 09:47 AM
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Educate me here, what tells you that one fender is a 70 and the other is a 71-72? I Have always been a Chevy guy so im trying to learn the small differences on these cars.
Old October 24th, 2020 | 09:57 AM
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Educate me here, what tells you that one fender is a 70 and the other is a 71-72?
Dimples.

Seriously, the 1971-72 fenders have "dimples" in the lip under the hood to make them easier to crumple and absorb the impact in a head-on collision. See the driver side fender on the car in question. The 1970 (and earlier) fenders have a flat lip (passenger side in the photo) that acts as a much more rigid spear in a frontal impact. FYI, the 70 fenders were superseded in the parts book by the 71-72 style as soon as those were released.



Old October 24th, 2020 | 10:53 AM
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The car looks a whole lot better 25 feet away

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Old October 24th, 2020 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Dimples.

Seriously, the 1971-72 fenders have "dimples" in the lip under the hood to make them easier to crumple and absorb the impact in a head-on collision. See the driver side fender on the car in question. The 1970 (and earlier) fenders have a flat lip (passenger side in the photo) that acts as a much more rigid spear in a frontal impact. FYI, the 70 fenders were superseded in the parts book by the 71-72 style as soon as those were released.


Thanks Joe, I see it now, I should have known that, Chevelles have the same type of dimples. Later service Chevelle fenders have those.
Old October 24th, 2020 | 11:07 AM
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Since the pic is up the ww jug doesnt look like its mounted correctly
Old October 24th, 2020 | 11:16 AM
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Yeah, that ain't right. And what's that white box on the valve cover?
Old October 24th, 2020 | 12:32 PM
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I think it's a billet Edelbrock breather.

https://www.jegs.com/i/Edelbrock/350/4204/10002/-1



Old October 25th, 2020 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
GAH...zero money shots! 47 thousand shots of the top side. Cut and run restoration.
Maybe when you live in Florida it's just assumed there isn't any rot/rust?
I want to see all the seams and frame.

Trumpet bumper....what not to do.
It's a Cutlass. Tuck the tips under the bumper and hide them where they belong. Talk about corner-cutting.
At least it's not rebadged as a 442!

This car is worth perhaps 10, 12G.... only IF its a factory 4 speed and IF its 99% desert or inland Florida rust-free and IF nothings bent.

Watch it will go 18, 20K to an uneducated buyer, it sure does look like a Gorgeous Restoration! (cut n run). Gotta love the auctions.

As I’m typing this, the bidding is up to $20,300. I can’t help but notice all the pics are basically the same views. No chassis pics, no engine/trunk/floorboards, etc. My first thought is what’s the seller hiding?

Im sure if I saw this car out on the road it would catch my eye and get my attention. But if I’m looking to spend that kind of money I’d absolutely want more detailed pics.

For someone who isn’t a Olds fanatic, most of the nitpick stuff wouldn’t be noticed. While I noticed the front seat pattern didn’t match the rear, I’m not familiar enough with the 70-72 cars to know what seat pattens belongs to what year. Same thing with the other interior mistakes.

If it’s not a rusty heap, it would be a good driver. Not worth the money they sealer appears to think it is.
Old October 25th, 2020 | 08:45 PM
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Like I say wheres the money shots?
Old October 26th, 2020 | 04:33 AM
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the rear seat is a original 71-72 pattern, the front seat is ?
Old October 26th, 2020 | 07:18 AM
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Dealer Dan wants over 30k for this Cutlass, according to his website - bet he paid someone about 10 / 12K to acquire.






20K profit for a wipe down, and crafting some overly optimistic BS to sell it? No thanks

https://www.primoclassicsllc.com/veh...ss-convertible

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