oldspackrat

Looked at a '70 442 for sale locally & he has a lot of the paperwork with it. Including this broadcast sheet with proof that it came from the factory as a non W30 442, but with the W25 forced air induction (OAI hood & air cleaner). I'd heard of cars like this, but this is the first proof I've ever seen. Looks like it was ordered/made as kind of a factory race car. 442 with OAI, bench seat, 4 speed, 3:42 posi rear, manual drums, & few options. He has most of the original parts, block, intake, alternator, muncie 4 speed, rear end, frame, etc.. Twilight blue with black interior & black stripes. Car is completely apart, but the rolling chassis is restored & nice. Body needs some floor/brace work, trunk pan work, pass quarter & inner wheel well work, but rest is pretty nice. This would be a neat car when done.


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droptopron

Sounds nice.

wmachine

Okay, that is actually a "build sheet", but nice documentation never the less. Don't know what you mean, "cars like this"? Doe you mean non W-cars with the W25 hood? The W25 hood could be had on a Cutlass S, let alone a regular 442.
I see nothing there to make that a factory race car, just a nice 4-speed 442.

oldspackrat

Sorry, I'm mixing my terms, build sheet, broadcast sheet, similar, but different I guess. I know there are sometimes rectangular cards, are those broadcast sheets/cards?
By cars like this, I mean cars that supposedly came from the factory with the hood & air cleaner, but are not W cars. I guess I didn't know that you could get the hoods on a Cutlass S without it being a W car.
I also didn't mean factory race car, but a car probably ordered with street/strip racing in mind & set up nicely for that purpose.
Current owner said it came with 4 wheel manual drums. The MC is still on the shell with no booster. I think it came standard with manual discs if you had a 4 speed 442 W30, but apparently not if it was just a 4 speed 442?

stevengerard

that is cool and sounds like a great car to have some fun with. I have heard of some Cutllii with the W25 hood but have never seen documentation to go with it. As mentioned many 442 non W cars came with the W25 hood though.

wmachine

Its just a terminology thing, just to identify what is what. "Broadcast cards" are the smaller tags that are a Fisher Body issue and are "body" related. "Build sheets" are the larger sheet and are "chassis" related and used at final assembly. There are indeed "broadcast codes" on build sheets, but we need some defined terminology so we can identify the paperwork.

Correct. The W30 (and W31) had restrictions because the radical cams caused a lack of vacuum for the power brake boosters.

wmachine

You'll find the documentation various places on Wild About Cars.
FWIW, about 1,000 Cutlass S cars came with them.

Wild About Cars. http://wildaboutcars.com. An information supersource, especially Oldsmobile. More Olds content than anywhere else on the internet and continuing to grow.
You'll find Chassis Service Manuals, Product Information Manuals (AKA Assembly Manuals), Inspector's Manuals, and other documents that will contain this and much much more.
Dealer Brochures, magazine ads and articles, and a home page for you online. You can even have your very own club there and a personal forum.
Free to join, free to learn.

stevengerard

Yes, I'm on there and have been on some of the Wednesday meetings as well - just never seen a build sheet for a W25 Cutlass before

64Rocket

Where are the pic's?? This thread is nothing without pic's!!!!

Gene

junior supercar

What Gene said. Come on Scott, help a brother out. I actually know someone other than myself that is looking for a 70 442. If you happen to have taken some pics, please post them.

oldspackrat

I'll call the guy & see if I can go back & get some Oldsmobile porno for us all. I was to busy thinking about how I could swing buying it & forgot to take more than a couple pictures.

11971four4two

Does the car still have the XT/IF wheels?

oldspackrat

The original wheels are gone & in place are a set of 14" ss II's. Here is the link to the pictures I took.
He has E heads, doesn't think they are the original ones to the car, but the block, intake, alternator, dist?, trans, & rear end are all.
He is asking $8700.00 for it, but did say there is a little wiggle room. It would be a major project, but for the right person, would be a good car.

His number is 317-508-1752. His name is Chris. Seems like a real nice guy & knows Oldsmobiles pretty well. Tell him Scott/oldspackrat gave you the number.

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