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Old July 28th, 2012 | 02:59 PM
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Oldspower.com information

Hi.

To quell any rumors, here are the facts as I've been made aware. Seems as the server that we have been overpaying for for some time with very little if ANY technical support with our damaging issues as told us that "Sorry, you have ran out of hard drive space". Was it a virus that killed it? Quite possible. But as all well know, I am no expert (at anything)

WTF? How exactly does this happen when we set up a site with unlimited HD space.

Other than that, I have no answers. Oldspower isn't dead, its just comatose. You may see it come back completely renewed with some better support. Are we selling out? No. not exactly. However, expect the unexpected. All will be welcome to return, IF we decide to run "under new management".

Anyone that had my email, change the comcast to att.net. No, I'm not asking for help, or condolances. I felt the need to make an effort to let those that did enjoy the site know that we are researching other options.

Chances are good that we will be back in some capacity. Chances are NOT good that things will be "back to normal".

Respectfully,

John
Old July 28th, 2012 | 04:54 PM
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This may sound obvious, but I trust that you have the entire site backed up "off-site," ie: on a couple of hard drives in someone's house, in case the commercial server suddenly experiences unexpected "problems."

- Eric
Old July 28th, 2012 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
This may sound obvious, but I trust that you have the entire site backed up "off-site," ie: on a couple of hard drives in someone's house, in case the commercial server suddenly experiences unexpected "problems."

- Eric
We counted on our service provider to do that. Those files were backed up every Tues and Thurs. They have yet to release those files. Lesson learned.

John
Old July 28th, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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We counted on our service provider to do that. Those files were backed up every Tues and Thurs. They have yet to release those files. Lesson learned.

John
Ouch...
I would have trusted someone more to back it up it in their house than rely on att or comcrap to do a job someone is paying them to do...
Hope it works out.
Old July 28th, 2012 | 07:38 PM
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Bummer Thanks for letting us know what's going on.


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Old July 28th, 2012 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Eightupman
We counted on our service provider to do that. Those files were backed up every Tues and Thurs. They have yet to release those files. Lesson learned.
That's why, even though I flatter myself into thinking that the advice segments I write up will be there for others to search out indefinitely, I know that I could log on one day and find it's all been deleted.

Computer-stored information seems eternal, but it can be erased in a heartbeat.

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Old July 28th, 2012 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MDchanic
Computer-stored information seems eternal, but it can be erased in a heartbeat.
This pertains to almost all digital data and storage. One glitch is all it takes to destroy it all. I learned long ago that data on flash memory can easily be gone in a flash so backups are critical there as well as any other digital data storage.
Old July 28th, 2012 | 08:37 PM
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That's why, even though I flatter myself into thinking that the advice segments I write up will be there for others to search out indefinitely, I know that I could log on one day and find it's all been deleted.

Computer-stored information seems eternal, but it can be erased in a heartbeat.

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Unless it's something that you desperately want permanently erased. Then it seems you can't get rid of it.
Old July 28th, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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Progress of Man-

Man made marks and wrote on stones- Lasted thousands of years.

Then made marks and wrote on paper- lasts hundreds of years, if in a climate controled atmosphere.

Then made marks and wrote on computer chips -10 years? 10 weeks? 10 days, who knows.

Point is the more advanced we get the more history we lose.

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Old July 28th, 2012 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Troys Toy 70

Point is the more advanced we get the more history we lose.
LoL... Good way to put it.
EASIER to loose and the more we lose when it happens.

Stone could only be destroyed with a BIG club.
Paper can be destroyed by fire.
Data on IC chips can be destroyed by your camera batteries dying, or a power surge, or a drop, or a shoe in the wrong place...
Old July 28th, 2012 | 09:10 PM
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Yea, who knows what is next. We just went through a core conversion at work, talk about frustrating. That is why I like working on the Cutlass. There is something that is just straight forward that is relaxing. kinda.
Old August 7th, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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don't know how much progress it really is, but there's a little guy shoveling his life away up there now.
Old August 7th, 2012 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by GBodyFreak
don't know how much progress it really is, but there's a little guy shoveling his life away up there now.
Over 20 hours over the weekend downloading files from the old POS server, 3 hours yesterday uploading, and another two hours today going WTF...

I'm gonna need beer and another weekend.

John
Old August 7th, 2012 | 07:53 PM
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sticking with the v-bulletin format?
Old August 8th, 2012 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by GBodyFreak
sticking with the v-bulletin format?
Trying to so I don't loose everything. Problem is our license is LONG since expired, and I have zero support from them until I shell out the $$$ for the new stuff.

IF I shell out for the new stuff, I'm going to most likely lose ALL 10 years of data.

I have to get the old stuff working before I upgrade.

And I'm way way lost.

John
Old August 8th, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Eightupman
Trying to so I don't loose everything. Problem is our license is LONG since expired, and I have zero support from them until I shell out the $$$ for the new stuff.

IF I shell out for the new stuff, I'm going to most likely lose ALL 10 years of data.

I have to get the old stuff working before I upgrade.

And I'm way way lost.

John
Its really unfortunate for what you went through. Literally backing up my sites as I type this. If you are looking for a reliable host, I recommend dreamhost.com. I've used them for years, $10 a month for unlimited space, bandwidth and domains hosted on accounts. That and their support is top-notch.

You mentioned you are working on getting the old stuff working first and don't want to pay vbulliten before trying. If it will help, I would be more then happy to install a fresh vbulliten on one of my sites and give you access to see if you can get your old databases and files working again. Once you get everything sorted out, you can just export the files and transfer everything back to your stuff. I'm pretty big into all this web stuff so let me know if I can help with anything.
Old August 8th, 2012 | 08:39 AM
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Keep plugging along John. Some of us miss the place. We know you're doing your best, thanks.

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Old August 8th, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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Now THAT, Joffroi, was a gentlemanly offer.

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Old August 8th, 2012 | 09:45 AM
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Its really unfortunate for what you went through. Literally backing up my sites as I type this. If you are looking for a reliable host, I recommend dreamhost.com. I've used them for years, $10 a month for unlimited space, bandwidth and domains hosted on accounts. That and their support is top-notch.

You mentioned you are working on getting the old stuff working first and don't want to pay vbulliten before trying. If it will help, I would be more then happy to install a fresh vbulliten on one of my sites and give you access to see if you can get your old databases and files working again. Once you get everything sorted out, you can just export the files and transfer everything back to your stuff. I'm pretty big into all this web stuff so let me know if I can help with anything.
Thank you, agreed, a gentlemanly offer.

It will be a few days before I'm in a position to spend quality time with it. Probably saturday. Since I've posted this I'm realizing there is more to setting up the server before transferring the data. I need Apache installed I guess, and I don't have remote terminal access. So I have to really dig into the VB tech manual to see what the heck I've done. I have also realized that I'm not 100% sure I pulled the vbdatabase off the server in its entierty.

John

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Old August 8th, 2012 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Eightupman
Thank you, agreed, a gentlemanly offer.

It will be a few days before I'm in a position to spend quality time with it. Probably saturday. Since I've posted this I'm realizing there is more to setting up the server before transferring the data. I need Apache installed I guess, and I don't have remote terminal access. So I have to really dig into the VB tech manual to see what the heck I've done. I haev also realized that I'm not 100% I pulled the vbdatabase off the server in its entierty.

John
Free time is like gold for me to so I can't guarantee that much. Pretty much all web servers should have apache and mysql installed so you shouldn't have to deal with that. Are you hosting everything on a personal server?

Are you still able to log into your vbullten forum admin panel and backup the threads and so for to a zip file? If you can do that, you should be in good shape. It should be just a matter of inputting that backup file to a new, fresh forum. If you can't access that, I have a feeling its going to be pretty painful.

I don't think we need to turn this thread into a good night story with technical jargon. Feel free to email me at joffroi@oldsmobilecentral.com. As I mentioned, I should be able to at least make you an admin of a test forum for you to just play around with importing files and such if that helps.
Old August 8th, 2012 | 11:52 AM
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Free time is like gold for me to so I can't guarantee that much. Pretty much all web servers should have apache and mysql installed so you shouldn't have to deal with that. Are you hosting everything on a personal server?

Are you still able to log into your vbullten forum admin panel and backup the threads and so for to a zip file? If you can do that, you should be in good shape. It should be just a matter of inputting that backup file to a new, fresh forum. If you can't access that, I have a feeling its going to be pretty painful.

I don't think we need to turn this thread into a good night story with technical jargon. Feel free to email me at joffroi@oldsmobilecentral.com. As I mentioned, I should be able to at least make you an admin of a test forum for you to just play around with importing files and such if that helps.
Agreed, I'll fire you off an email after work. I will probably take you up on that offer because its a golden opportunity to learn.

John
Old August 8th, 2012 | 04:36 PM
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Thanks John for the update.
Old August 8th, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Thanks for the update, and good luck.
Old August 8th, 2012 | 09:29 PM
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Yes, there are some us who miss the site. Thanks John, good luck.
Old August 8th, 2012 | 10:34 PM
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Yes, there are some us who miss the site. Thanks John, good luck.
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Old August 8th, 2012 | 10:40 PM
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Good luck! I didn't post much but enjoyed reading there.
Old August 9th, 2012 | 07:13 PM
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Thanks John for the update sorry to here of your site troubles.Yes some of us miss your site.I for one realy enjoyed Olds Power.
Old August 13th, 2012 | 08:47 AM
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If you didn't know, John and I were able to dig through some of the issues and get his site up and running again (and hopefully for a long time). Enjoy!
Old August 14th, 2012 | 08:38 AM
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So is it still oldspower.com or a new name, address? Post a link if possible. Thanks for your help.
Old August 14th, 2012 | 08:43 AM
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So is it still oldspower.com or a new name, address? Post a link if possible. Thanks for your help.
Its still the same Oldspower.com. If you want a direct link to the forum, its here: http://www.oldspower.com/vb/
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