old school vs. new school
The new Camaro, Challenger, and Mustang the return of the Stingray are just marketing plays off of old names.
Their styling is like Pamela Anderson; "exaggerated proportions and desperately trying evoke an image of a youthful past" - Curbside Classics
I do agree with you on the Viper; it is the most original out of the list. It has it's own distinctive styling while being brutish and simple unlike most performance cars. The Viper is also a bit of an oddball; it originated in the early 90s when all cars seemed like they were doomed to be front-wheel-drive aero-econo-lunchboxes.
I agree with a lot of what people are saying about these cars. I'm 22 and I'm working on my old cutless fixing this and that. That to me is what makes a car worth having. That is what brings the soul and uniqueness out in a car in my opinion. The new are nice and yes they can be fast comfortable and get good gas mileage, but with them your just another face in the crowd. Roll up in a late 60s early 70s and your the center of attention :-)
I like this thread, but lets be honest most of us are pretty biased since this is predominately a classic car website. I would be curious to see what Modified Mustang's Forum would have to say this topic. I used to be on there when I owned my '96 v6 5-speed (first car...it was alright)
i'm young @ 24 and i really do enjoy the newer cars/trucks. the old cars are fun for summer cruising but daily driving..ect i love my daily driver '02 V10 ford excursion.
all of my trucks are 10 years or older and i have not had any electrical issues people worry about. who knows what the current cars/trucks will do in 10-15 years but i think they will be pretty dang reliable.
all of my trucks are 10 years or older and i have not had any electrical issues people worry about. who knows what the current cars/trucks will do in 10-15 years but i think they will be pretty dang reliable.
I'm "only" 33 and I love them both. I had an 05 GTO M6, and it's the only car I'd probably buy another one of in the future. I daily drove it in Chicago for about 2 years. If it wasn't for mileage on premium gas, insurance, and the temptation to modify it (read: the expense) I'd still have it as my daily and the Cutlass as the toy. But I had to get a lil Mazda3 as my commuter so I can afford to work on the Cutlass! lol
Even put a hitch on it to haul my bike!
Even put a hitch on it to haul my bike!
These cars are very complicated and the only good thing I could say about owning a new Corvette is the huge amount of tech people and tuners out there troubleshooting them. No backyard mechanic will be able to fix it, that's for sure.
No, that's not for sure. Maybe a backyard mechanic who can't use a laptop with some tuning software, but there are some programs out there that will let you pull into the track, upload a new map, and turn the car into a dragster with one mouse click.
My 2 cents is a simple one, I love anything that has survived time & is not owned by every third person. Go to the local car show & check the size of the crowd around the tiny screaming so called hot rod Honda then look & see the audience around the old school muscle car. Won't even be a close one. I respect technology & electronic H.P but it rarely turns my head. To each his own as always.
Here is another good example I run in to often in my dealership. Early C5 Corvette with ABS light on. 90% of the time turns out to be a EBCM and BPMV have to be replaced. Depending on the part# the car takes most of the parts are discontinued. The ones I can still get are are about $3800.00 for the parts alone. The one that I can't get no on makes there is no aftermarket and the companies that do rebuild them say that part# can't be rebuilt. I looked for a month to find one for a customer that had a 02 Z06 before a used one popped up on EBAY and still bid up to $1600 because he is not the only one out there needing one.
We have pretty much started refusing any interior or dash work in C4 Corvettes because everything is so brittle something breaks and you can't get replacement parts.
We have pretty much started refusing any interior or dash work in C4 Corvettes because everything is so brittle something breaks and you can't get replacement parts.
Here is another good example I run in to often in my dealership. Early C5 Corvette with ABS light on. 90% of the time turns out to be a EBCM and BPMV have to be replaced. Depending on the part# the car takes most of the parts are discontinued. The ones I can still get are are about $3800.00 for the parts alone. The one that I can't get no on makes there is no aftermarket and the companies that do rebuild them say that part# can't be rebuilt. I looked for a month to find one for a customer that had a 02 Z06 before a used one popped up on EBAY and still bid up to $1600 because he is not the only one out there needing one.
We have pretty much started refushing any interior or dash work in C4 Corvettes because everything is so brittle something breaks and you can't get replacement parts.
We have pretty much started refushing any interior or dash work in C4 Corvettes because everything is so brittle something breaks and you can't get replacement parts.
I don't get any thumbs up driving around in my Mazda 6 as i do in the Cutlass.I've had more ppl yell across the street at me saying ''Nice F%$#king Car !'' then I can count on both hands and that's young and old ppl both .I think our old cars are timeless classics that trigger an emotional response from ppl more than any late model vehicle can.
I hope he is. I was at a GM engineering booth as they talked about all the changes in the new C7 and it is nothing short of amazing. I forgot what they said was leftover parts from the C6 but it was negligible.
These cars are very complicated and the only good thing I could say about owning a new Corvette is the huge amount of tech people and tuners out there troubleshooting them. No backyard mechanic will be able to fix it, that's for sure.
These cars are very complicated and the only good thing I could say about owning a new Corvette is the huge amount of tech people and tuners out there troubleshooting them. No backyard mechanic will be able to fix it, that's for sure.
Basically, they changed some dimensions and materials and bolted new electronic gismos onto it.
my opinion
If you have more money than brains go buy a new muscle car. I will come along in three to four years & pay the $0.50 on the dollar that it is now worth. Depreciating asset...that is the best way to describe the NEW muscle cars.
I broke the coat hook on my 2005 300C. It is part of an assembly that costs a few hundred dollars. You can't replace just the little plastic hook like you can on an older car. When I traded my 300C for a 2007 Charger R/T, it didn't have the auto dimming rear view mirror like the 300 did. I went to the dealer to see what it cost to order a self dimming mirror. It cost over $1200 for the mirror! Neither of these parts are considered vital to restoring the car. I can't fathom the price and unavailability of really important parts 25, 35 or more years down the road. New cars are disposable, and the assemblies, circuit boards and computers that make them up are also disposable.
I bought my Cutlass from an older couple about a year ago. They were going to give it to their son when he graduated from college. He said "I don't want that piece of crap". Now I drive it, and although not the most desirable year for the Cutlass, I get a ton of compliments. Best feature...that old car smell.
I was reminded last week just what is was that I liked about older mucsle cars. I was standing in my shop when a customer started up his W-31 with loud exhaust and drove out the door and down the road. There is nothing like the sound of classic horse power. ~BOB
I feel the same way in appliances as I do with cars now - keep my oldies.
I towed it in and was told its either the distributor or the ECM Toyota wanted $700.00 for a distributor and $950.00 for the computer (if they could find one since its been discontinued for years) There is no A/M computer from anyone and no luck calling LKQ. I found a distributor at Rock Auto for $150 and took my chance it would fix it. Luckily it did but had it been the ECM I might as well have just thrown the car away.
I was cruising 65mph on the interstate once and a lady pulls beside me rolls the window down and yells "I love your car!"
Many other wonderful comments and conversation that old car brings, from all around.
Only ONCE had i got a complement on the Caddy, 10 years ago. It was in a parking lot to Oreillys...

Old cars just bring out the car-guy or gal in people.
Most of the new cars look to much alike, I had an 09 Challenger R/T it was a blast to drive but NOTHING sounds better than a big block olds with a healthy cam. I have never had more fun than I do when I drive my 68 442!
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