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Old February 3rd, 2020 | 05:34 PM
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Not your Father’s Oldsmobile?

My father actually bought a 1970 442 in 1971 and recently passed away at 87 and I’m looking for some guidance on pricing the car for sale. The car is a numbers matching AT, PS, PB, w/ factory AC, rear defroster, 103k original miles. Originally gold w/ vinyl top, it underwent a frame-off professional restoration in the early 90’s after which it was driven a total of less than 3k miles. Stored in a heated garage, detailed and maintained annually by the restoration house, all it needs is new tires as these are just old. 455 was rebuilt with a mild cam, intake and carb, ceramic coated headers and SS exhaust, TH 400 rebuilt w/ TransGo shift kit and mild stall. He hated the original OAI air cleaner because it was unfiltered when opened up and gave it away 40 years ago, oh well. Runs and drives like a dream, everything works perfectly, runs cool, starts and idles great. have more pictures if anyone is interested, appreciate any advice on asking price.


Old February 3rd, 2020 | 07:19 PM
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What's the Vin number?
A pic of the cowl tag?
Any documentation?
It's the right color(s) for sure.
Did you verify the block & trans have the partial VIN to the car? if not you need to. What heads are on it?
Carb, Dist, Rear end, water pump alternator etc etc... all need to match for high dollars.
Did the owner toss you a price? I always put the seller on that defense when possible.
More than 25K less than 100K. Just depends on the overall condition and amount of parts that are date coded and #s matching.
The OEM air cleaner can get pricy. Subtract that off the price. Smart original owner hugh?
Anyone who know me knows I always ask for the money shots, Door seams, underbody, inside/outside of the frame, trunk floors, metal dash, and so on.

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Old February 3rd, 2020 | 07:52 PM
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Wow, what a beautiful car. It seems the 1970 model is the hot ticket, if you must sell it, put it on Ebay and see what it brings. Being a color change may effect price for the purist, why black was not an available color is beyond me. The old line "it's worth what someone is willing to pay" is about it. 35-50K...maybe more to the right person? Good luck with the sale, wish it was parked in my garage...lol
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wozny442
He hated the original OAI air cleaner because it was unfiltered when opened up and gave it away 40 years ago, oh well.
Anyone who has changed the air filter knows that isn't the way the OAI air cleaner works.
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 07:56 PM
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Sorry for your loss.
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 08:29 PM
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Anyone who has changed the air filter knows that isn't the way the OAI air cleaner works.
Always a jerk in the crowd.
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Frisbee_k9
Sorry for your loss.
Thank you sir.
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ragz442
Wow, what a beautiful car. It seems the 1970 model is the hot ticket, if you must sell it, put it on Ebay and see what it brings. Being a color change may effect price for the purist, why black was not an available color is beyond me. The old line "it's worth what someone is willing to pay" is about it. 35-50K...maybe more to the right person? Good luck with the sale, wish it was parked in my garage...lol
Thanks!
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
Did the owner toss you a price? I always put the seller on that defense when possible.
Go back and read the original post again. The prior owner was the OP's father, and he's dead. Not much "price tossing" is going to happen now.

Very cool car and a very nice story. Pricing it will be difficult because it is not 100% original. But the fact that it's been in the same family practically since new will help its provenance, and that will help its value.
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
Go back and read the original post again. The prior owner was the OP's father, and he's dead. Not much "price tossing" is going to happen now.

Very cool car and a very nice story. Pricing it will be difficult because it is not 100% original. But the fact that it's been in the same family practically since new will help its provenance, and that will help its value.
Thanks for your kind words. My dad had made half-hearted attempts to sell it but I don’t believe he really wanted to and it made sense to me. I’m in the middle of a convertible project, same year and model, otherwise I would keep his given the history.
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by wozny442
Always a jerk in the crowd.
I was merely pointing out that your statement didn't make any sense as that is not the way the OAI works and just by looking at it look at it one would see that the incoming air always passes through the air filter.

And welcome to the forum.
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
I was merely pointing out that your statement didn't make any sense as that is not the way the OAI works and just by looking at it look at it one would see that the incoming air always passes through the air filter.

And welcome to the forum.
You’re wiser than my father, I’m sure that makes you feel good. Moving forward, please don’t comment on anything regarding this particular post, your input isn’t relevant to the topic.
Old February 3rd, 2020 | 10:13 PM
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I'm curious to see your response to droldsmorland's post. As stated, that information would be extremely crucial for valuation.
Old February 4th, 2020 | 05:08 AM
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Absolutely gorgeous car. I', not certain that I agree with a couple of comments. Color changes, as long as they are made to original factory available colors probably don't impact the value that much. Just look at the original Bamboo W30 convertible that Thornton repainted to Sebring Yellow and sold for something like $250k. Also Color Code 19 Ebony Black absolutely was available on all 0970 Oldsmobile models except the Toronado. It's even pictured on a Cutlass Supreme hardtop in the brochure that year.
Old February 4th, 2020 | 06:32 AM
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Sorry for your loss. I am sure the sale of you Dad's prized possession has not been an easy decision.

It would be helpful to know yours, and / or, the car's location as the region can have some impact on value. From your description and the pictures you have posted, your offering should be very attractive to ready buyers looking for a turn-key purchase.

Many of the guys on this site are much more knowledgeable than I regarding these Oldsmobile's but, I have a bit of experience buying / selling classic cars. My experience includes both private party and on-site consignment. Your car is very presentable. If it were I, I would take a car of this caliber to a held-on-site consignment seller like Street Side Classics, Gateway Classics, or another reputable classic car consignment company. They should, also, be able to provide pricing recommendations. I bought my Cutlass thru Street Side and sold my El Camino thru another company closer to me. The Trans Am and Nova were private purchases. I will not likely sell another one privately, unless I have a known buyer.

With that said, and again, I defer to the more knowledgeable, if you pursue the private sale route....I feel $ 60,000 might be a good start. Whatever you decide on, be sure to keep an open mind and leave yourself some wiggle room. Everybody likes a "Deal".

Good luck with this and your project car.

Old February 4th, 2020 | 10:27 AM
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Sorry for Your Loss, Having My Fathers Oldsmobile for 43 years now makes it easy for Me to say you might want to keep it if at all possible, once its gone you might not be able to get it back, Take some time to think this thru, Knowing it was DaD's makes it Special!
Old February 4th, 2020 | 11:03 AM
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I will correct this NOW!
wozny442....While I'm enjoying the taste of the buses undercarriage in the sandbox...I will offer this apology...The original post reads like a 3rd party if you groom it quickly. "bought a 1970" not bought this 1970.
No disrespect directed towards your dad, EVER.
We have all done stupid things like me tossing out the line card before I knew what it was. Y&S factor, I have a master's degree in it.

We take pride here at C.O. in NOT being just another testosterone ridden Chevelle site full of giant balloon knots...we'll a majority of us do.

Please post some photos and the info I requested when you have time. We/I will gladly help decipher it and guide you toward a fair unbiased dollar value.

Dads car = priceless so it will be a hard sell. I couldn't do it.

Steve
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