Manual Transmissions in full-size cars
#1
Manual Transmissions in full-size cars
I've known for a while that you could order a four-speed in a full-size car (the earliest being the 1964 Jetstar 88, I believe), and I know only about 17 people did, but does anyone have any experience with this type of setup? Is it a pleasant car to drive, does it make a difference in speed/fuel consumption, or is it totally useless as a drivetrain option?
#3
Well I have a 66 Delta with factory 4spd, 375 HP Starfire engine. The car itself is a great car as I have had others with Auto trans. The 4spd is no different in my opinion than any other car with a stick. I have a 442 as well that is stick. The only negatives woulld be the sorta awkward angle and very stiff clutch pedal. You really feel it in your calf muscle after a while. The other thing is the Muncie shifter has a very long throw.
#4
Don't know why an Olds'd be stiff, unless someone put an 'old school' H.D. pressure plate in it!
I've had 2 L knee surguries from a '56 chebby w/4000 clutch - ex-wife couldn't push with both feet!!
E+R Rubberdrive! [solid rubber in the disc!]
I've had 2 L knee surguries from a '56 chebby w/4000 clutch - ex-wife couldn't push with both feet!!
E+R Rubberdrive! [solid rubber in the disc!]
#7
Pleasant to drive? I wouldn't bother for just "pleasant". It is a blast to drive! It really is not as much a pain as it may seem. Definitely a different experience in a big car. But it is fast enough that is makes the car seem smaller, if that makes any sense.
Weird, for sure. I know of a '70 88 too. 3-on-the-tree was still the standard trans on the big cars (except 98s and Toros) thru 1971.
#8
Long throw on a Muncie has been a problem since day one!! Even brand new!
Hurst Competition Plus, steel bushings, and new shifter forks will bring travel to about 3 - 4 inches!!
Back in the day, I'd install it, with parts + labor, for around $150.
Probably have done 50 over the years.
Hurst Competition Plus, steel bushings, and new shifter forks will bring travel to about 3 - 4 inches!!
Back in the day, I'd install it, with parts + labor, for around $150.
Probably have done 50 over the years.
#10
Long throw on a Muncie has been a problem since day one!! Even brand new!
Hurst Competition Plus, steel bushings, and new shifter forks will bring travel to about 3 - 4 inches!!
Back in the day, I'd install it, with parts + labor, for around $150.
Probably have done 50 over the years.
Hurst Competition Plus, steel bushings, and new shifter forks will bring travel to about 3 - 4 inches!!
Back in the day, I'd install it, with parts + labor, for around $150.
Probably have done 50 over the years.
To clarify, I believe most of those conversions you did were on A-bodies like '64 and '65 442s and Cutlasses that had Muncie shifters. You would have had a hard time finding 50 4-speed B-Body Oldsmobiles!
I'm keeping mine original only for the sake of keeping original, otherwise I'd Hurst-it in a heartbeat. New bushings in the bottom of the shifter handle helps some.
#11
You bet! I think my arm changes counties shifting from second to third...........
To clarify, I believe most of those conversions you did were on A-bodies like '64 and '65 442s and Cutlasses that had Muncie shifters. You would have had a hard time finding 50 4-speed B-Body Oldsmobiles!
I'm keeping mine original only for the sake of keeping original, otherwise I'd Hurst-it in a heartbeat. New bushings in the bottom of the shifter handle helps some.
To clarify, I believe most of those conversions you did were on A-bodies like '64 and '65 442s and Cutlasses that had Muncie shifters. You would have had a hard time finding 50 4-speed B-Body Oldsmobiles!
I'm keeping mine original only for the sake of keeping original, otherwise I'd Hurst-it in a heartbeat. New bushings in the bottom of the shifter handle helps some.
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