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November 20th, 2010, 05:21 PM
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My wife called tonight while she was Christmas shopping, she found 5 copies. So Ill have it shortly.
Youre in it too Joe, so its not hijacking.
November 20th, 2010, 06:27 PM
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Picked up that MCR today, and just saw your post. It is a very nice car, good job! Now if we can only get correct info out there on Oldsmobiles, like the fact that all '68-'69 455's were red that were used in the H/O, 88's and 98's. Throw in the numbers stated for the '70 pace car replica's, and you start to get the impression the the cars mags don't bother to double check any statistics thrown their way. Oh, and I suppose I'll stir up some trouble here with the statement that, if it wasn't built in Lansing, it's not a W30, in regard to the article on the '66-67 trac pack cars. Dealers and individuals adding the W30 goodies does not make it a W30, they are trac packs, period.
November 20th, 2010, 07:01 PM
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Jasen, you will soon know how much she loves you, by how many copies of MCR she brings home 
Olds engineers gave the 1966 W30 parts to the racers to convert their cars before the NHRA Nationals. As far as they were concerned, a car had a U63 radio or a W30 Outside Air Induction option if it was on the car, whether Lansing or dealer installed.
The difference is that non-Lansing built W30s are not "factory" cars. The parts book makes no mention of the term "Track Pack" although I heard that term was on the big box from Parts. In the book it was called Induction Package, Outside Air. There was also a "Conversion Package" 397615 to convert to Tri Carbs. The existence of these kits indicates that Olds "blessed" the addition of the option, just as they offered radio kits, power steering, air conditioning, clocks, cruise control, etc. Now, after the 1967 models, there wasn't a "kit" to convert a 4-4-2 to W30, so converting later years did not have the same kind of factory "approval."
Olds engineers gave the 1966 W30 parts to the racers to convert their cars before the NHRA Nationals. As far as they were concerned, a car had a U63 radio or a W30 Outside Air Induction option if it was on the car, whether Lansing or dealer installed.
The difference is that non-Lansing built W30s are not "factory" cars. The parts book makes no mention of the term "Track Pack" although I heard that term was on the big box from Parts. In the book it was called Induction Package, Outside Air. There was also a "Conversion Package" 397615 to convert to Tri Carbs. The existence of these kits indicates that Olds "blessed" the addition of the option, just as they offered radio kits, power steering, air conditioning, clocks, cruise control, etc. Now, after the 1967 models, there wasn't a "kit" to convert a 4-4-2 to W30, so converting later years did not have the same kind of factory "approval."
November 20th, 2010, 08:04 PM
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Jasen, you will soon know how much she loves you, by how many copies of MCR she brings home
Olds engineers gave the 1966 W30 parts to the racers to convert their cars before the NHRA Nationals. As far as they were concerned, a car had a U63 radio or a W30 Outside Air Induction option if it was on the car, whether Lansing or dealer installed.
The difference is that non-Lansing built W30s are not "factory" cars. The parts book makes no mention of the term "Track Pack" although I heard that term was on the big box from Parts. In the book it was called Induction Package, Outside Air. There was also a "Conversion Package" 397615 to convert to Tri Carbs. The existence of these kits indicates that Olds "blessed" the addition of the option, just as they offered radio kits, power steering, air conditioning, clocks, cruise control, etc. Now, after the 1967 models, there wasn't a "kit" to convert a 4-4-2 to W30, so converting later years did not have the same kind of factory "approval."
Olds engineers gave the 1966 W30 parts to the racers to convert their cars before the NHRA Nationals. As far as they were concerned, a car had a U63 radio or a W30 Outside Air Induction option if it was on the car, whether Lansing or dealer installed.
The difference is that non-Lansing built W30s are not "factory" cars. The parts book makes no mention of the term "Track Pack" although I heard that term was on the big box from Parts. In the book it was called Induction Package, Outside Air. There was also a "Conversion Package" 397615 to convert to Tri Carbs. The existence of these kits indicates that Olds "blessed" the addition of the option, just as they offered radio kits, power steering, air conditioning, clocks, cruise control, etc. Now, after the 1967 models, there wasn't a "kit" to convert a 4-4-2 to W30, so converting later years did not have the same kind of factory "approval."
This issue is jam packed with Oldsmobiles. Ive never seen this many Oldsmobiles in one issue of any magazine. Congrats to you Joe on your feature. I wouldve said so earlier, but I didnt get to see it until tonight!
How you feeling?
November 20th, 2010, 08:55 PM
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Muscle Car Review is monitoring this thread (which is a good thing).
November 23rd, 2010, 07:55 PM
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Picked up a copy at WalMart tonight. Probably the first MCR I've bought in ten years. Since they're monitoring this thread, here's why I dropped my subscription years ago.
1) they had an editor at the time who tried to turn it into another Chevrolet rag
2) there was a lot of outright bullshit information in it (when a GM guy can find glaring errors in a Ford or Mopar article, that tells me the writing and editorial staff isn't too concerned with accuracy)
3) even with the erroneous information, they tried to come across as the authority on muscle cars. There are still a generation of readers who will argue you blue in the face that something is so because they read it in MCR, when it is known incorrect information that can be proven so without much research.
So, guys- if you can make me see that all that has changed, I might subscribe again. That and offer balanced coverage of all makes instead of concentrating on Chevy, Mustang and Mopar. There's plenty of magazines and rack space devoted to them already.
1) they had an editor at the time who tried to turn it into another Chevrolet rag
2) there was a lot of outright bullshit information in it (when a GM guy can find glaring errors in a Ford or Mopar article, that tells me the writing and editorial staff isn't too concerned with accuracy)
3) even with the erroneous information, they tried to come across as the authority on muscle cars. There are still a generation of readers who will argue you blue in the face that something is so because they read it in MCR, when it is known incorrect information that can be proven so without much research.
So, guys- if you can make me see that all that has changed, I might subscribe again. That and offer balanced coverage of all makes instead of concentrating on Chevy, Mustang and Mopar. There's plenty of magazines and rack space devoted to them already.
November 25th, 2010, 05:10 AM
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November 29th, 2010, 01:40 PM
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I got my two copies today (that's all they had!!!) at Fry's. Man, what an issue! Glory be, Oldsmobile's everywhere. Congratulations to you all for making it into nationwide print. I'm jealous!!!
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December 4th, 2010, 09:00 AM
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Finally got a copy great stories in there congrats on all the Olds in there....
TK time to get the Post car going then back in MCR always great to see multi generation builds
Joe awesome read on yours lots of very usefull info in there and your car really is amazing
TK time to get the Post car going then back in MCR
always great to see multi generation buildsJoe awesome read on yours lots of very usefull info in there and your car really is amazing
December 4th, 2010, 06:28 PM
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Picked up a copy at WalMart tonight. Probably the first MCR I've bought in ten years. Since they're monitoring this thread, here's why I dropped my subscription years ago.
1) they had an editor at the time who tried to turn it into another Chevrolet rag
2) there was a lot of outright bullshit information in it (when a GM guy can find glaring errors in a Ford or Mopar article, that tells me the writing and editorial staff isn't too concerned with accuracy)
3) even with the erroneous information, they tried to come across as the authority on muscle cars. There are still a generation of readers who will argue you blue in the face that something is so because they read it in MCR, when it is known incorrect information that can be proven so without much research.
So, guys- if you can make me see that all that has changed, I might subscribe again. That and offer balanced coverage of all makes instead of concentrating on Chevy, Mustang and Mopar. There's plenty of magazines and rack space devoted to them already.
1) they had an editor at the time who tried to turn it into another Chevrolet rag
2) there was a lot of outright bullshit information in it (when a GM guy can find glaring errors in a Ford or Mopar article, that tells me the writing and editorial staff isn't too concerned with accuracy)
3) even with the erroneous information, they tried to come across as the authority on muscle cars. There are still a generation of readers who will argue you blue in the face that something is so because they read it in MCR, when it is known incorrect information that can be proven so without much research.
So, guys- if you can make me see that all that has changed, I might subscribe again. That and offer balanced coverage of all makes instead of concentrating on Chevy, Mustang and Mopar. There's plenty of magazines and rack space devoted to them already.
"They" though I was joking about high-performance Toronados.
Their said 1500 1970 Toronado GTs were produced.
Believe it or not, this article is how I met Rocketradier! He wrote to me,(about that article) almost 25 years ago.
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