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Old Nov 26, 2024 | 07:37 PM
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Looks like the link isn't showing the completed auction. It was a very nice 1100880 alternator that went for $2512. It did have free shipping.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/286171930016?autorefresh=true

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Old Nov 26, 2024 | 07:50 PM
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I read on some facebook forum where he was verifying the application that he said he bought it for $10-$15. He could not remember. Pretty good return on investment.
Old Nov 26, 2024 | 07:53 PM
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I read on some facebook forum where he was verifying the application that he said he bought it for $10-$15. He could not remember. Pretty good return on investment.
Said he gave $10 for it. It was a very nice unit, looked like NOS or never mounted.
Old Nov 26, 2024 | 08:15 PM
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Glad to see that the capitalism and the idea of supply and demand has not been diminished by the entitled have-nots.. Clearly, no hate here. Also clearly an able and willing customer. Those individuals who work hard (or are simply smarter than us working class folks), deserve to play respectively. Just imagine if we dipped our toes into the exotic market?…Stroke factor level 9.5!!😂
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 04:41 AM
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So this is unique to a '70 W30? Why did the W30 require a special alternator?
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 04:53 AM
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Old Nov 27, 2024 | 05:23 AM
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Trump in, folks are loosening up the wallet now. Thats a huge price for an open face alternator but as said. Capitalism at its finest. I am picking up a set of 65 442 side scoops in excellent shape. Maybe I need to try eBay and get 800 for them? Lol.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 05:56 AM
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Trump in, folks are loosening up the wallet now. Thats a huge price for an open face alternator but as said. Capitalism at its finest. I am picking up a set of 65 442 side scoops in excellent shape. Maybe I need to try eBay and get 800 for them? Lol.
send some pictures
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 07:44 AM
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Let's see if it stays sold. I've seen lots of completed auctions on ebay where the exact same car shows up about two weeks later with the exact same ad from the same seller.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 08:25 AM
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Yah, I was watching a laptop worth 200 bucks go sky high, then got a email relisting the item...
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by F-85 4-4-2

So this is unique to a '70 W30? Why did the W30 require a special alternator?
It's not just a W30 unit, it was also used on 442's. There were 2 different units, this 1100880 37A and the HD 1100890 55A unit that was also used on 442's & w30's. It commonly called an open faced because of the 6 spoke design and also known has a diamond back because of the unique design of the rear case. You got any more questions Mr. PPG?
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Let's see if it stays sold. I've seen lots of completed auctions on ebay where the exact same car shows up about two weeks later with the exact same ad from the same seller.
I could be wrong but I think this was a real deal. There were a lot of guys going after it. It was like NOS almost.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 08:42 AM
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The market for really nice 11000880's and 11000890's open face 70-442 alternators is reasonably priced if they are in excellent condition. Many available are over the counter service replacements and those were not stamped. Almost all rebuilds are rebuilt to 75 amps, so there is no concern around them producing 37 amp (1100880's) or 55 amps (1100890's). I started taking them off 70-442's 40 yrs ago (realizing that were unique with the fin backed design). These 70-442 open face alternators were dropped/cracked or replaced for repair and rarely replaced with the correct 1970 442 design (442's and 442 W30's received the same fin backed alternators), just depended on whether they were an A/C equipped auto trans or 4 speeds that dictated getting the 880's or 890's (appearance is identical). I paid big money for every one I purchased, then I sent most of them to Ken Bruno for complete restoration. His work is not inexpensive, but they come with a life time warranty and are amazing restored alts upon completion. Last one I sold for $2000 6 mos ago, plus shipping. After holding them for decades, paying for restoration and all the shipping back and forth, you are ahead putting your $ in market vs making money off of these type parts. People often don't consider all of that when they see these price points. I have never sold one on eBay. I just sell about one per yr to a guy here or there that understands their worth and really needs one.

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Old Nov 27, 2024 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
You got any more questions Mr. PPG?
Not at this time. And "Mr. Intellectual Curiosity" is more appropriate!
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by f-85 4-4-2
not at this time. And "mr. Intellectual curiosity" is more appropriate!
lol
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 09:34 AM
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Consider this. I have a friend who has a documented 70 W30 4 Speed Convertible. It does not have the correct 1100880 alternator on it. How much does he need this unit? He was bidding on it and not sure if he was the winner or not. If I had his car I would pay the $$$$$ and go about my business. The way I look @ it is, it's not like a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread that you buy every week.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 09:49 AM
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Ebay charges are egregious. They went from a couple percentage points to 15% in a hurry. Very expensive to sell on that site now.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 10:05 AM
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There is another "data point" to compare to for this alt. A essentially-equivalent alt that was bid on ebay long ago. The annual appreciation/inflation isn't "market beating" or phenomenal at all.

This alt (the one that sold last night on ebay - 1100880) was near-NOS or possibly NOS IMO. Sort of an outlier in terms of condition.

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Old Nov 27, 2024 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
I could be wrong but I think this was a real deal. There were a lot of guys going after it. It was like NOS almost.
I know what these are worth, Mike, but that does seem a little high.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by capstoneclub
The market for really nice 11000880's and 11000890's open face 70-442 alternators is reasonably priced if they are in excellent condition. Many available are over the counter service replacements and those were not stamped. Almost all rebuilds are rebuilt to 75 amps, so there is no concern around them producing 37 amp (1100880's) or 55 amps (1100890's). I started taking them off 70-442's 40 yrs ago (realizing that were unique with the fin backed design). These 70-442 open alternators were dropped/cracked or replaced for repair and rarely replaced with the correct 1970 442 design (442's and 442 W30's received that same alternators), just depended on whether they were an A/C equipped auto trans or 4 speeds that dictated getting the 880's or 890's (appearance is identical). I paid big money for every one I purchased, then I sent most of them to Ken Bruno for complete restoration. His work is not inexpensive, but they come with a life time warranty and are amazing restored alts upon completion. Last one I sold for $2000 6 mos ago, plus shipping. After holding them for decades, paying for restoration and all the shipping back and forth, you are ahead putting your $ in market vs making money off of these type parts. People often don't consider all of that when they see these price points.
Precisely, there is a fee associated with storage along with the rest. I don't try to make money off this hobby; it's enough to invest in something that won't lose value.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 01:58 PM
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Precisely, there is a fee associated with storage along with the rest. I don't try to make money off this hobby; it's enough to invest in something that won't lose value.
This opinion isn't shared by most. These days, it seems if you're not being stolen from it's a bonus.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 03:29 PM
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Hmmm, F heads, 258 Qjets, red fender wells, open face alternators, keep your W30 original, or step off the porch
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 03:42 PM
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Old Nov 27, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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Old Nov 27, 2024 | 03:54 PM
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I would like to get ON the porch, someday.
Old Nov 27, 2024 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by dc2x4drvr
Hmmm, F heads, 258 Qjets, red fender wells, open face alternators, keep your W30 original, or step off the porch
Well, you’re not wrong…., wanna sell me a Legend 5speed?😂
Old Nov 30, 2024 | 07:33 PM
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You know the old saying about a fool and his money. I’m willing to bet it was a restoration shop that bought it for some yuppy that has to have all original and I’ll bet they’ll mark it up nicely too but it won’t add a dime to the price of the finished car. With the price of muscle cars finally (thank god) coming down due to the rise of cheap performance, he was smart to sell it when he did. In 5 years I think he’d be lucky to get $500 for it.
Old Dec 1, 2024 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by 71ramrod
You know the old saying about a fool and his money. I’m willing to bet it was a restoration shop that bought it for some yuppy that has to have all original and I’ll bet they’ll mark it up nicely too but it won’t add a dime to the price of the finished car. With the price of muscle cars finally (thank god) coming down due to the rise of cheap performance, he was smart to sell it when he did. In 5 years I think he’d be lucky to get $500 for it.
I have to say I respectfully disagree with this statement . That alternator will add value if on the right car, restored the correct way or an original car that is missing that item. Not all people in this hobby have $125K+ cars but those have the high end cars will pay this because of the provenance of the car. Would I pay 2K for this, no but I don't need it. However when I bought my current car the 1st things I looked at were if the correct part number items were there. My 98% all original car would just be a car that needs restored if these items were gone.
Old Dec 1, 2024 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Cfos0031!
I have to say I respectfully disagree with this statement . That alternator will add value if on the right car, restored the correct way or an original car that is missing that item. Not all people in this hobby have $125K+ cars but those have the high end cars will pay this because of the provenance of the car. Would I pay 2K for this, no but I don't need it. However when I bought my current car the 1st things I looked at were if the correct part number items were there. My 98% all original car would just be a car that needs restored if these items were gone.
Absolutely and I file statements made like the one you quoted under jealously.
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By the way guys is one quarter of a million the highest price ever paid for a muscle era Olds ?
Old Dec 1, 2024 | 04:08 PM
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By the way guys is one quarter of a million the highest price ever paid for a muscle era Olds ?
Didn't Lee Pearl's 1970 W30 four speed convertible bring $325 or $328 or something like that? I remember seeing that car in his basement garage before the resto. A lot of work and NOS parts went into that one.
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Would not surprise me that after initial purchase price, resto costs and auction commission costs, shipping cost, the seller might have broke even. That said, great car I suspect.
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My point is not out of jealousy or confusion. Of course there’s going to the 1 of 1 and 1 of 5 ect cars but the fact is they made millions of the cutlass and variants. Ferraris are worth money because they’re rare. I can’t go to autozone and get an alternator for a Ferrari but I can sure get one for a 442 even if it has the wrong numbers. If this was bought for a $250k 442 convertible than fine but if it was bought for a 442 coupe that’s lost 40k in value in the last 10 years than you won’t see the money back. Barret jackson has ruined this hobby by artificially running up the prices of cars that aren’t rare. Back when I was trying to restore my cutlass at the height of the barret Jackson bubble I couldn’t afford a Chinese quarter panel from eBay. This was all good and fine for the people who saw cars as investments but for those of us who wanted to drive our cars it was a killer. Thankfully the bubble is bursting and parts are getting affordable again. I just bought a non seized 330 and 350 engine for $200 30 mins away. A few years ago when I needed a crank for my 350 I had to drive 2 hours and spend $300 for a blown 350. Old iron engines just aren’t worth it when I can build a 500hp LS for less than $1000 (which I have done but it will never be in my olds). 80’s and 90’s Japanese imports are running the market now. That $300k super bee has been replaced with a $300k twin turbo Supra. Nostalgia is what drives the price of these cars and the nostalgia is getting too old to drive them. Look at the model T, people can’t give them away because nobody wants them let alone knows how to drive them which is why I can get a rebuilt model T generator on eBay right now for a whopping $250. The point of this rant is not to knock the buyer as much as to congratulate the seller for selling when he did.
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I need help with questions I have about this car !
build date is 12/17/1968 or 1969
I believe it is a 1968 built, 12 month, 3rd week.
Old Dec 2, 2024 | 10:28 AM
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I need help with questions I have about this car !
build date is 12/17/1968 or 1969
A 12/17/68 build date would be for a 69 model car. If it was 12/17/69 it would be for a 70 model car.
Old Dec 2, 2024 | 10:51 AM
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Why not start your thread instead of messing up this thread..
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Does it look to be tampered with ?
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Originally Posted by dc2x4drvr
Why not start your thread instead of messing up this thread..
how?
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