Is this how scams work?
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Just an Olds Guy
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Is this how scams work?
A while back, someone posted a CL link for a drop dead 66 442 with only 44k miles. You may recognize this pic:
Well that was a couple months back. I actually sent an email to find out more about the car. Finally after no replies, I gave up.I just got this back today. According to the info they supply it sounds like a 50k + car and they are spinning a sob story. If they need the money I'm not getting why they wouldn't sell it for real valuation at an auction or to a collector. Your take: Scam or not? In my books it's a sugar coated one...
Well that was a couple months back. I actually sent an email to find out more about the car. Finally after no replies, I gave up.I just got this back today. According to the info they supply it sounds like a 50k + car and they are spinning a sob story. If they need the money I'm not getting why they wouldn't sell it for real valuation at an auction or to a collector. Your take: Scam or not? In my books it's a sugar coated one...
Sorry for the late response; we just started to check our email. We wanted to let you know that the OLDSMOBILE is still available for sale.
The asking price is $11,500. It's a 1966 OLDSMOBILE 442 CUTLASS. It has 44,737 miles. The car is located in Montpelier, VT. IT IS NUMBERS MATCHING W/ L69 PERFORMANCE PACKAGE, 400/360 HP 3x2 TRI-POWER ENGINE, AND 4-SPEED… BURGUNDY MIST EXTERIOR AND RED INTERIOR... OPTIONS THIS CAR HAS ARE CONSOLE, CONSOLE MOUNTED VACUUM GAUGE, BUCKET SEATS, DELUXE STEERING WHEEL, DELUXE INTERIOR, DELUXE AM RADIO, TINTED GLASS, DUAL CHROME SIDE MIRRORS, CHROME HURST WHEELS W/ RED LINE TIRES, AND MORE… It is in Excellent Condition! No scratches or dents. The engine runs like a top. Clean history. Never been wrecked or involved in any kind of accident. It runs and drives very good, needs nothing! No smoker. The car is currently registered on my husband's name and the title is clear with no liens or loans. It comes with a clear and clean title in hand, bill of sale signed by him and notarized and all the paper work (including the original manuals and keys). We want to sell it because we are in desperate need of cash due to my husband several uninspired decisions while gambling, so we end up with a lot of debts and we are about to lose our business as well. We are also about to change our house for a cheaper one and try to sell more other things.
We had a serious buyer before and we lost about 2 weeks waiting for him but we just find out that his loan wasn't approved.
We are currently signed up for a protection program offered by Google Wallet and we would like to close the deal through them. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the car before paying us. In this way you're not buying something sight unseen. You will have a 5-day inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the car or not before they release the funds to us.
If we reach an agreement, we are willing to take care of the shipping because the fee was already paid by us for the buyer that I told you about. The shipping company will not refund us in full but offered to ship the car anywhere within continental US, so it is at their warehouse and it's ready to be shipped anytime. It will be a big advantage for you if you decide to move the car to your location.
Looking forward for your reply if you are interested in the car and I will send you more details about the deal or car as well. Also I only attached one photo. Please let me know if you need some more.
Sincerely,
Emma & Stephen Muller
The asking price is $11,500. It's a 1966 OLDSMOBILE 442 CUTLASS. It has 44,737 miles. The car is located in Montpelier, VT. IT IS NUMBERS MATCHING W/ L69 PERFORMANCE PACKAGE, 400/360 HP 3x2 TRI-POWER ENGINE, AND 4-SPEED… BURGUNDY MIST EXTERIOR AND RED INTERIOR... OPTIONS THIS CAR HAS ARE CONSOLE, CONSOLE MOUNTED VACUUM GAUGE, BUCKET SEATS, DELUXE STEERING WHEEL, DELUXE INTERIOR, DELUXE AM RADIO, TINTED GLASS, DUAL CHROME SIDE MIRRORS, CHROME HURST WHEELS W/ RED LINE TIRES, AND MORE… It is in Excellent Condition! No scratches or dents. The engine runs like a top. Clean history. Never been wrecked or involved in any kind of accident. It runs and drives very good, needs nothing! No smoker. The car is currently registered on my husband's name and the title is clear with no liens or loans. It comes with a clear and clean title in hand, bill of sale signed by him and notarized and all the paper work (including the original manuals and keys). We want to sell it because we are in desperate need of cash due to my husband several uninspired decisions while gambling, so we end up with a lot of debts and we are about to lose our business as well. We are also about to change our house for a cheaper one and try to sell more other things.
We had a serious buyer before and we lost about 2 weeks waiting for him but we just find out that his loan wasn't approved.
We are currently signed up for a protection program offered by Google Wallet and we would like to close the deal through them. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the car before paying us. In this way you're not buying something sight unseen. You will have a 5-day inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the car or not before they release the funds to us.
If we reach an agreement, we are willing to take care of the shipping because the fee was already paid by us for the buyer that I told you about. The shipping company will not refund us in full but offered to ship the car anywhere within continental US, so it is at their warehouse and it's ready to be shipped anytime. It will be a big advantage for you if you decide to move the car to your location.
Looking forward for your reply if you are interested in the car and I will send you more details about the deal or car as well. Also I only attached one photo. Please let me know if you need some more.
Sincerely,
Emma & Stephen Muller
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Perhaps another one of those “uninspired decisions” like the old man made while gambling.
Sadly there are losers out there that can't manage their money. All my life I've heard about folks that buy something expensive on payday and sell it for pennies on the dollar a week before the next payday. Compulsive gambling is a sickness. I once worked with a guy that ended up in prison over his gambling addiction. Sad, but they have to bottom out before they can be helped.
If someone was close buy and could check this car out WITHOUT PUTTING ANY MONEY DOWN, it might be worth a look see. Otherwise, I'd pass.
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It's an old truism but true nevertheless;
"If it's too good to be true it probably isn't true"
This might be a perfectly above board sale, but it rings alarm bells. Any potential buyer should indepently check if the car is as described and more importantly if the title is clean.
Roger.
"If it's too good to be true it probably isn't true"
This might be a perfectly above board sale, but it rings alarm bells. Any potential buyer should indepently check if the car is as described and more importantly if the title is clean.
Roger.
Last edited by rustyroger; Mar 31, 2012 at 04:03 AM.
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A reply of my brother lives in montepelier when can he see it is all it takes.
the seller may reply its at the shipper warehouse
if so inquire to the location and name of said shipper and warehouse
wherever it is your cousin lives nearby he will check it out
its a small world there is no reason to commit cash sight unseen thru any medium.
if they dont reply or arent accomadating...its likely a scam
the description is better than the standard scammer, which leans towards legit but as the rusty one said if its to good to be true .....
many times the image gives away a distant locale...not so in this case save for the concrete driveway (less popular in that neck of the woods but not unheard of) the area appears to be vermontish
the seller may reply its at the shipper warehouse
if so inquire to the location and name of said shipper and warehouse
wherever it is your cousin lives nearby he will check it out
its a small world there is no reason to commit cash sight unseen thru any medium.
if they dont reply or arent accomadating...its likely a scam
the description is better than the standard scammer, which leans towards legit but as the rusty one said if its to good to be true .....
many times the image gives away a distant locale...not so in this case save for the concrete driveway (less popular in that neck of the woods but not unheard of) the area appears to be vermontish
Last edited by RetroRanger; Mar 30, 2012 at 04:54 AM.
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If someone mentions shipping costs or trying to force you to go through some third party payment sceme, then I would RUN. If I cannot see the car in advance and take care of getting it home myself, then no consideration. Happened to me a couple years ago with a VC I liked about 40 miles away.
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BTW... the broken Engrish is a dead giveaway. My boss encountered the same BS when trying to sell his house. It was worded similarly. It became really obvious when it came time to discuss the 'payment details'. 'UK', 'Western Union', etc.
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Being as I work in the transportation industry - I can tell you first hand this screams BS ~!
No shipping co. / motor carrier can legally refuse a refund of prepaid shipping charges if product it not shipped and owner of "cargo" wishes to reclaim their property. Only possible to collect partial costs if they arranged to pick up car and bring to their facility which would not happen as a stop over shipping arrangement. No Carrier wants to be responsible for freight - regardless of what it is any longer than getting from point A to delivery to point B .
End of story -
RUN FOREST !!!!!!
No shipping co. / motor carrier can legally refuse a refund of prepaid shipping charges if product it not shipped and owner of "cargo" wishes to reclaim their property. Only possible to collect partial costs if they arranged to pick up car and bring to their facility which would not happen as a stop over shipping arrangement. No Carrier wants to be responsible for freight - regardless of what it is any longer than getting from point A to delivery to point B .
End of story -
RUN FOREST !!!!!!
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These Nigerians just can't get a story told in good english;
"We are also about to change our house for a cheaper one and try to sell more other things."
Would anyone here phrase it this way?
And, if they really had that car for sale it would bring that much sitting in the driveway where the picture was taken in a flash.
Sorry scammers.
"We are also about to change our house for a cheaper one and try to sell more other things."
Would anyone here phrase it this way?
And, if they really had that car for sale it would bring that much sitting in the driveway where the picture was taken in a flash.
Sorry scammers.
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If they say to put they"ll put Western Union in your name It means nothing. They ask for conformation number which is all they need to cash any in. I'm talking in general, not this scam. When placing ads on C/L, if the response is general like (Do u still have the item) and has a full name and is gmail I find them to be scams.
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Just an Olds Guy
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From: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
I actually looked up Google Wallet. Says it's launching here 'early 2012' whatever that is. Kind of an interesting approach, but obviously only works for non cash transactions. Not sure I trust the technology yet. Also doesn't address things you carry and have to produce like drivers license, birth cert, SIN, picture ID etc.
Yes, my thoughts exactly.
What a neat idea. Maybe I'll play their game for awhile and see if they wanna play too. See how far Emma and Stephen want this to go. Thought about forwarding this to the local police but they probably can't do anything because you have to prove civil fraud before they can take action. I think that means money actually has to change hands. Not mine though....
What a neat idea. Maybe I'll play their game for awhile and see if they wanna play too. See how far Emma and Stephen want this to go. Thought about forwarding this to the local police but they probably can't do anything because you have to prove civil fraud before they can take action. I think that means money actually has to change hands. Not mine though....
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The local Police will look into it!!
Awhile back I had Postal Money Orders shipped to me, I was to deposit, etc. etc!
They were forged copies, sent overnight FedEx, in a "secret shopper" scam!
Locals were all over it like flies on $hit!!
Even had Postal Inspecters here!
They want these people - turn 'em in!!
Awhile back I had Postal Money Orders shipped to me, I was to deposit, etc. etc!
They were forged copies, sent overnight FedEx, in a "secret shopper" scam!
Locals were all over it like flies on $hit!!
Even had Postal Inspecters here!
They want these people - turn 'em in!!
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the reason they always specify UPS or FedEx is that there is no mail fraud and the feds are not involved. only if they send stuff through the USPS does mail fraud become an issue. the longer they keep national investigators at bay the longer they have to get away. I had one that said he wanted to buy my "item" and would send me a money order for $1800. I was asking $1500 for my old truck so I wrote back and said if he was paying with a MO then I needed $2200. he wrote back "why would I give you $2200" to which I replied "why were you going to give me $1800?". I never heard back from him.
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Hey guys I had a scam'r that I contacted back in January about a 72 Cutlass Convertible for 5k ,the guy told me he had moved to Spain to work but the car was in storage in Sudbury Ontario and that he wanted to go through Ebay to do the deal ,would ship the car to me free of charge (he won a shipping contest ??)with a 50% deposit on the car ,needless to say red flags went up ,never heard from him again (Calvin Long)
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A scam for sure, this is reply we got ref. A jaguar
YEAH, WE INQUIRED ABOUT A JAG FOR SALE...IT SOUNDED TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, AND LOOK AT THE EMAIL WE GOT FROM THE SELLER!
Hello Jerry,
Sorry for the late response; we just started to check our email. We wanted to let you know that the Jaguar is still available for sale.
The asking price is $11,400. It's a 1967 Jaguar E-Type XKE Series. It has 44,944 miles. The car is located in Montpelier, VT. It is in Excellent Condition! No scratches or dents. The engine runs like a top. Clean history. Never been wrecked or involved in any kind of accident. It runs and drives very good, needs nothing! No smoker. The car is currently registered on my husband's name and the title is clear with no liens or loans. It comes with a clear and clean title in hand, bill of sale signed by him and notarized and all the paper work (including the original manuals and keys). We want to sell it because we are in desperate need of cash due to my husband several uninspired decisions while gambling, so we end up with a lot of debts and we are about to lose our business as well. We are also about to change our house for a cheaper one and try to sell more other things.
We had a serious buyer before and we lost about 2 weeks waiting for him but we just find out that his loan wasn't approved.
We are currently signed up for a protection program offered by Google Wallet and we would like to close the deal through them. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the car before paying us. In this way you're not buying something sight unseen. You will have a 5-day inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the car or not before they release the funds to us.
If we reach an agreement, we are willing to take care of the shipping because the fee was already paid by us for the buyer that I told you about. The shipping company will not refund us in full but offered to ship the car anywhere within continental US, so it is at their warehouse and it's ready to be shipped anytime. It will be a big advantage for you if you decide to move the car to your location.
Looking forward for your reply if you are interested in the car and I will send you more details about the deal or car as well. Also I only attached one photo. Please let me know if you need some more.
Sincerely,
Emma & Stephen Muller
Hello Jerry,
Sorry for the late response; we just started to check our email. We wanted to let you know that the Jaguar is still available for sale.
The asking price is $11,400. It's a 1967 Jaguar E-Type XKE Series. It has 44,944 miles. The car is located in Montpelier, VT. It is in Excellent Condition! No scratches or dents. The engine runs like a top. Clean history. Never been wrecked or involved in any kind of accident. It runs and drives very good, needs nothing! No smoker. The car is currently registered on my husband's name and the title is clear with no liens or loans. It comes with a clear and clean title in hand, bill of sale signed by him and notarized and all the paper work (including the original manuals and keys). We want to sell it because we are in desperate need of cash due to my husband several uninspired decisions while gambling, so we end up with a lot of debts and we are about to lose our business as well. We are also about to change our house for a cheaper one and try to sell more other things.
We had a serious buyer before and we lost about 2 weeks waiting for him but we just find out that his loan wasn't approved.
We are currently signed up for a protection program offered by Google Wallet and we would like to close the deal through them. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the car before paying us. In this way you're not buying something sight unseen. You will have a 5-day inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the car or not before they release the funds to us.
If we reach an agreement, we are willing to take care of the shipping because the fee was already paid by us for the buyer that I told you about. The shipping company will not refund us in full but offered to ship the car anywhere within continental US, so it is at their warehouse and it's ready to be shipped anytime. It will be a big advantage for you if you decide to move the car to your location.
Looking forward for your reply if you are interested in the car and I will send you more details about the deal or car as well. Also I only attached one photo. Please let me know if you need some more.
Sincerely,
Emma & Stephen Muller
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And here's the next email they sent...persistant!
Jerry,
You need to go to Google Wallet website ( checkout.google.com ) to register with them and send us your Google ID (email address used for registration with Google Wallet), so we can start the transaction with them (they won't charge in any way the card used while registration) and will send you the payment instructions after the transaction take place. They will ask you for bank to bank transfer as the payment method. They will secure the funds and send us a payment confirmation, so the shipping process can start right away. We can`t access the funds until you say so. You will get a 5-day inspection period starting from the day the car arrives at your door. You can have a mechanic perform a detailed inspection. The title and a bill of sale signed by my husband and notarized will arrive together with the car. At the end of the inspection period, you need to decide if you want to keep the car or not. If you’ll decide to keep it, you need to inform Google Wallet about your decision, so they can send me the money. If for any reason you will decide to send the car back, you just need to let Google Wallet know and they will refund you in no time. We`ve paid for a premium shipping service, so it should be delivered quickly.
Also if you have the money available and you are ready to move forward, please provide me your telephone number and let me know the best time to talk and my husband will call you right away.
Best Wishes!
Emma Mülle
You need to go to Google Wallet website ( checkout.google.com ) to register with them and send us your Google ID (email address used for registration with Google Wallet), so we can start the transaction with them (they won't charge in any way the card used while registration) and will send you the payment instructions after the transaction take place. They will ask you for bank to bank transfer as the payment method. They will secure the funds and send us a payment confirmation, so the shipping process can start right away. We can`t access the funds until you say so. You will get a 5-day inspection period starting from the day the car arrives at your door. You can have a mechanic perform a detailed inspection. The title and a bill of sale signed by my husband and notarized will arrive together with the car. At the end of the inspection period, you need to decide if you want to keep the car or not. If you’ll decide to keep it, you need to inform Google Wallet about your decision, so they can send me the money. If for any reason you will decide to send the car back, you just need to let Google Wallet know and they will refund you in no time. We`ve paid for a premium shipping service, so it should be delivered quickly.
Also if you have the money available and you are ready to move forward, please provide me your telephone number and let me know the best time to talk and my husband will call you right away.
Best Wishes!
Emma Mülle
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From: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
What a coincidence on that email. Strange I haven't got the followup email yet. I had composed this lil ditty but not sure if I should send it back:
Hello Emma and Stephen Muller
It was so long ago since I sent in for information on this vintage automobile that I deleted my original email copy of the request I had sent you at the time. My word but that's a fine looking car. So sorry to hear that your husband has put your fortunes in disarray. Gambling can be as bad an addiction as drugs or alcohol wouldn't you agree? I know it's hard for you to let it go at that price - I've seen cars in similar condition sell for over 50,000.00 dollars US. In all fairness, I was beginning to think my efforts were failed to a false business venture because I have never seen such a beautiful car being sold for so low a cost, and I never had heard back for so long. I have other fine autos in my collections that I would love to add it to. I'm sure my wife of many years would enjoy having another car that will allow her to shop for a matching wardrobe. It must be devastating to have to change houses for a smaller cheaper one, and to dispose of many of lifes treasures must be equally painful, but it's important to live the lifestyle you can afford, not to live the one that will end you up in jail. My deepest sympathies for his over - indulgence that has strapped your life's windfalls.
Where exactly is this car located? Can you send me the address where it can be viewed and examined? I'd love to see it in person. If I can't view it myself, I have relatives throughout the USA who would be thrilled to make a journey and report back their findings to me on the overall condition of the automobile. I would expect them to also drive it to determine it's mechanical soundworthiness.
Google Wallet is not an option I will use, although it is a very interesting method of purchasing. If I were to decide in favor of purchasing this fine vintage auto, I would pay in person either by cash, or cashiers check - no wired money. Your offer on shipping is also very generous, but I'm not interested. You can talk to the shipper and explain your circumstances, I'm sure if they are a legitimate business operations they will refund most of your out of pocket shipping expenses. I could certainly expect them to release the car from a shipping contract in favor of settling their account wouldn't you think? If I were to purchase it, I would much rather enjoy the reward of driving it home myself.
Allan
It was so long ago since I sent in for information on this vintage automobile that I deleted my original email copy of the request I had sent you at the time. My word but that's a fine looking car. So sorry to hear that your husband has put your fortunes in disarray. Gambling can be as bad an addiction as drugs or alcohol wouldn't you agree? I know it's hard for you to let it go at that price - I've seen cars in similar condition sell for over 50,000.00 dollars US. In all fairness, I was beginning to think my efforts were failed to a false business venture because I have never seen such a beautiful car being sold for so low a cost, and I never had heard back for so long. I have other fine autos in my collections that I would love to add it to. I'm sure my wife of many years would enjoy having another car that will allow her to shop for a matching wardrobe. It must be devastating to have to change houses for a smaller cheaper one, and to dispose of many of lifes treasures must be equally painful, but it's important to live the lifestyle you can afford, not to live the one that will end you up in jail. My deepest sympathies for his over - indulgence that has strapped your life's windfalls.
Where exactly is this car located? Can you send me the address where it can be viewed and examined? I'd love to see it in person. If I can't view it myself, I have relatives throughout the USA who would be thrilled to make a journey and report back their findings to me on the overall condition of the automobile. I would expect them to also drive it to determine it's mechanical soundworthiness.
Google Wallet is not an option I will use, although it is a very interesting method of purchasing. If I were to decide in favor of purchasing this fine vintage auto, I would pay in person either by cash, or cashiers check - no wired money. Your offer on shipping is also very generous, but I'm not interested. You can talk to the shipper and explain your circumstances, I'm sure if they are a legitimate business operations they will refund most of your out of pocket shipping expenses. I could certainly expect them to release the car from a shipping contract in favor of settling their account wouldn't you think? If I were to purchase it, I would much rather enjoy the reward of driving it home myself.
Allan
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I responded to a too good to be true ad a few months back. A 2009 Range Rover for less than 5 grand - not an insurance wreck either. Apparently her son who drove it was killed in Iraq and she can't bear to look at it anymore. First off- a 90K truck selling for what the wheel and tire package cost? What soldier can afford to buy one in the first place?
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I had a guy at work get burned exactly like this. It was on eBay and they took it down, but he had already emailed the scammers. The $10K truck was $2995, something about a $3000 limit on Western Union. It was sent to Texas, picked up and cashed there, so it is not only Nigerians. We worked for the Inspector General and called the FBI and they did nothing, money lost. He came in to my office with a big $hit eating grin to tell me about the truck and I had to pop his bubble.
Some years ago I use to follow a women that sold quarter horses in the north west. She got the fake certified checks and was suppose to cash them and sent the excess back to the buyer. They always have a shipper, first tipoff. She would string them along, post a copy of the checks and emails on her web site. She had collected hundred of thousands of dollars from these guys. She provided her phone number (she made a mistake and provide her cell phone number which cost per minute) and would keep them on the line and run up their phone bill from Nigeria. She would cost them as much as she could. She had a Nigerian friend that gave her the most damning and disrespectfull phrase in Nigerian that she would hit them with when she was done. Man, that web site was a hoot.
Some years ago I use to follow a women that sold quarter horses in the north west. She got the fake certified checks and was suppose to cash them and sent the excess back to the buyer. They always have a shipper, first tipoff. She would string them along, post a copy of the checks and emails on her web site. She had collected hundred of thousands of dollars from these guys. She provided her phone number (she made a mistake and provide her cell phone number which cost per minute) and would keep them on the line and run up their phone bill from Nigeria. She would cost them as much as she could. She had a Nigerian friend that gave her the most damning and disrespectfull phrase in Nigerian that she would hit them with when she was done. Man, that web site was a hoot.
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My cousin replied the other night to an ad on Auto Trader, got the following response back... gee, sound familiar??
Something came up and we had to leave immediately out of town. We wanted to let you know that the car is still available.
The asking price is $16,500. It's 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 DOZ 302 CI. It has 52,291 miles. The car is located in Canton, GA. 290 HP turbo fire.It has a manual 4 speed on the floor, power brakes and power steering. This car still has original smog pump emission system installed by factory, making this car very rare. This was a straight no rust car before the complete frame off rotisserie restoration, great detail was done to the under carriage just as the inside. The paint is as click as glass with a brilliant show car finish. All body parts are aligned to a perfection. Has all matching numbers. The stamp under the hod shows X77D80. The packet in the glove box has the original purchase agreement and owners manual as shown.
Excellent Condition! No scratches or dents. The engine runs like a top. Clean history. Never been wrecked or involved in any kind of accident. It runs and drives very good, needs nothing! No smoker. My husband is the only owner since restoration. It comes with a clear and clean title in hand, bill of sale signed by my husband and notarized and all the paper work. We want to sell it because we are in desperate need of cash due to my husband several uninspired decisions while gambling, so we end up with a lot of debts and we are about to lose our business as well. We are also about to change our house for a cheaper one in MN and try to sell more other things.
We had a serious buyer before and we lost about 2 weeks waiting for him but we just find out that his loan wasn't approved.
We are currently signed up for a protection program offered by Google Wallet and we would like to close the deal through them. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the car before paying us. In this way you're not buying something sight unseen. You will have a 5-day inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the car or not before they release the funds to us.
If we reach an agreement, we are willing to take care of the shipping because the fee was already paid by us for the buyer that I told you about. The shipping company will not refund us in full but offered to ship the car anywhere within continental US, so it is at their warehouse and it's ready to be shipped anytime. It will be a big advantage for you if you decide to move the car to your location.
Looking forward for your reply if you are interested in the car and I will send you more details about the deal or car as well. Also I only attached one photo. Please let us know if you need some more.
Thanks
Sandra Savic
Something came up and we had to leave immediately out of town. We wanted to let you know that the car is still available.
The asking price is $16,500. It's 1969 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 DOZ 302 CI. It has 52,291 miles. The car is located in Canton, GA. 290 HP turbo fire.It has a manual 4 speed on the floor, power brakes and power steering. This car still has original smog pump emission system installed by factory, making this car very rare. This was a straight no rust car before the complete frame off rotisserie restoration, great detail was done to the under carriage just as the inside. The paint is as click as glass with a brilliant show car finish. All body parts are aligned to a perfection. Has all matching numbers. The stamp under the hod shows X77D80. The packet in the glove box has the original purchase agreement and owners manual as shown.
Excellent Condition! No scratches or dents. The engine runs like a top. Clean history. Never been wrecked or involved in any kind of accident. It runs and drives very good, needs nothing! No smoker. My husband is the only owner since restoration. It comes with a clear and clean title in hand, bill of sale signed by my husband and notarized and all the paper work. We want to sell it because we are in desperate need of cash due to my husband several uninspired decisions while gambling, so we end up with a lot of debts and we are about to lose our business as well. We are also about to change our house for a cheaper one in MN and try to sell more other things.
We had a serious buyer before and we lost about 2 weeks waiting for him but we just find out that his loan wasn't approved.
We are currently signed up for a protection program offered by Google Wallet and we would like to close the deal through them. If you are not aware of this program you should know that it will allow you to test drive and inspect the car before paying us. In this way you're not buying something sight unseen. You will have a 5-day inspection period to decide whether you want to keep the car or not before they release the funds to us.
If we reach an agreement, we are willing to take care of the shipping because the fee was already paid by us for the buyer that I told you about. The shipping company will not refund us in full but offered to ship the car anywhere within continental US, so it is at their warehouse and it's ready to be shipped anytime. It will be a big advantage for you if you decide to move the car to your location.
Looking forward for your reply if you are interested in the car and I will send you more details about the deal or car as well. Also I only attached one photo. Please let us know if you need some more.
Thanks
Sandra Savic
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Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4
From: Viginia
Agreed. If I don't have a trusting relationship, or know of someone who does, with a seller I'm only to be awfully skeptical. Anything/one that uses all caps is an immediate turn off as well, they're not taking themselves seriously so I won't either.
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Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 2,810
From: Long Island, NY
One thing to note is that there has been more activity on reasonably priced cars as well. The scammer doesn't present what would be a screaming bargain but just a good deal. The one I saw was a clean GN with 70K for $7900. Its a good deal but not over the top. Think about car like that green '70 Cutlass that was on CList forever and kept coming back like a bad penny.
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Joined: Sep 2010
Posts: 80
From: Rhinelander. WI
We saw a totally rebuilt 1969 Chevell SS clone, for the right price of $11000 and only 26 miles away, we called and said when could we come and get it. A woman us called back saying she had no idea what we were talking about. We rechecked the ad and used the email function. Looked up the name and address and took a ride. We met the man, showed him the ad. He could not figure out who would use his name and his girlfriends cell number, said he would buy the car himself. Received an email from a woman saying thank you for our interest, she had the car, was deaf and needed surgery. We decided to play along and see what she would do, and maybe just a chance to get the car though we doubted it. We said we wanted the car, would pay cash as soon as we saw it. She said she traveled too much, would have to go through Google Bank and a 3rd party, the car would be shipped and we could have the car for 5 days before the bank would release the money to her. She needed our address and information. We said we would drive and pick it up save the shipping, that it was strange that the car started out in one state and is now in another. Never heard from her again. That was last week. It makes a person mad.
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Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 285
From: Maryland
Any one else getting Teletype responses to ads from overseas? These Nigerians have figured out a way to use the overseas operators designed for deaf people to scam everyone trying to sell something that is posted on the internet. It must be a free service they are using to call phone numbers listed in the ad. I've had dozens of these calls. It burns me up that these crooks are using a service designed for the handicapped.
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Joined: Jan 2010
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Always ask for more information. SPECIFIC information. Such as, "I need pictures of the rear trunk panel" or some other obscure portion of the car, like VIN number and body plate number. Either way, make sure you put something specific and not typical. A real seller would take pictures of anything you'd like. If the car isn't stored there...then tell them you'll wait til they get some time to do it. Doubt you'll hear from them again.
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Just an Olds Guy
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 24,528
From: Edmonton, AB. And "I am Can 'eh' jun - eh"
Well that's not bad. Thought you were gonna say 'thicker than makeup on Tammy Fay Bakers' face..
BTW, never did get a reply to that email. Kind of think they got the message on the 'call out'. Tried to write it with the same glib BS they posted on their ad. Was fun.
The sad thing is there are people out there who think this sob story is so true and send the money just like lambs to the slaughter. Barnum and Bailey would be impressed with these scammers.
BTW, never did get a reply to that email. Kind of think they got the message on the 'call out'. Tried to write it with the same glib BS they posted on their ad. Was fun.
The sad thing is there are people out there who think this sob story is so true and send the money just like lambs to the slaughter. Barnum and Bailey would be impressed with these scammers.
Sammy70 455 Supreme
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 3,069
From: Port Perry, Ontario
Any one else getting Teletype responses to ads from overseas? These Nigerians have figured out a way to use the overseas operators designed for deaf people to scam everyone trying to sell something that is posted on the internet. It must be a free service they are using to call phone numbers listed in the ad. I've had dozens of these calls. It burns me up that these crooks are using a service designed for the handicapped.
Like my son's 13 year old friend says: That"s just WRONG!!!
