hueveaj

I am trying to replace a missing cowl tag from a 1970 Cutlass SX convertible. I bought the car about 8 months ago without the cowl tag, the owner did not have it nor did he know what happened to it. He did, however, have a recovered build sheet from under the back seat. I want to as accurately as possible, re-produce the cowl tag for this car from the build sheet information. I'm here to enlist the help of the Oldsmobile community to piece together the information from the attached build sheet and fill in the information on the attached cowl tag template.

For the sake of full disclosure and so as to be clear on my intent, the Vehicle Identification Number on the build sheet matches the VIN, engine number and transmission number also match, so I feel confident that the car and the build sheet are a match, so there is no intent to "create" a car from other pieces of cars. I am particularly looking for information for the "TIME BUILT CODE", "UNIT NUMBER", and why the build sheet shows three characters for trim code, yet the cowl tag template shows four spaces. Thanks in advance for any help you can give!
Al

GAOldsman

Your unit # is 00149 and I can help on the rest when I get back from town if no one else has chimed in

Scot

GAOldsman

ST 70 34267 BL 00149 BDY (or just 149 I have seen both ways from Linden)

TR 994 58 H PNT

08C A65 008406 029900
^(or 08D)

Allan R

Scot, I was just ready to post and saw your reply. 2 things to add.
A65 should be in the spec after trim code.
I believe the missing numbers you posted a x's are 029900

GAOldsman

Thanks Al I knew (was hoping) you would chime in

Allan R

You realize of course that the extra digits with the 6 numbers is a total guess. They may or may not have been on the original Cowl Tag. But looking at the Build Sheet, that SX has a very good option list that most dealers wouldn't order. IMO it looks like a customer order car which would likely have had the extra numbers on the tag though.

This is also the first references I've seen on box 107 with an ST* code and the following codes listed after it.
D15 - is a deluxe front/rear armrest
D33 - Left hand remote mirror
Y60 - convenience light group

Note: the Order Number is prefixed with E(00299). Didn't see that on the Freemont cars so maybe something special for Linden?
I looked up when Fisher Body Plant sequenced the build and it looks like an early production car. Anyway those are my thoughts.

The rest of the info I'll post on our group discussion later.

GAOldsman

Ah but it was August 20 1969 Daniel son

Allan R

Ya know, I ALWAYS seem to have trouble with that specific part of this production thingy. You're right, I apologize and will fix my mistake ^^. One of these days, I will be able to ****** the pebble from your hand.....

So, since Friday/Sat were still work days at Fisher and the 20th is mid week, shall we agree on 08D?

pcard

AL for reference here is my tag. Also an SX from Linden.

GAOldsman

First you must catch fly with chopstick Not sure it's either 08C or 08D
Ah that would explain the E prefix before the order #

So it could also read

ST 34267 E 00149 BDY or ST 34267 BL 00149 BDY or ST 34267 E 149 BDY or ST 34267 BL 149 BDY

Confused yet

GAOldsman

What about the paint? Sometimes Linden and other places used the WA code instead of the normal code.

Special Order Rallye Red



And sometime they used the DuPont paint code instead of the normal one.

Special Order Chevy Color Canary Yellow

GAOldsman

So now I believe the WA code and DuPont code is used on special order paint tags from Linden and a few other assembly plants. So with that said going by the build sheet the cowl tag above would read as

ST 70 34267 E 149 BDY

TR 994 58 H PNT

08C A65
^ or 08D

mike's88

Um guys, I believe that besides deciphering the build sheet, he's looking for a place that can make a new cowltag from the info he has. I know of no such place, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

GAOldsman

http://www.trimtags.com/ordering.html

$235 '65 - '77 Olds Cutlass & 442

Allan R

I was curious about something and maybe this isn't the right place to ask but here goes.
The CT for the 70 442 Holiday coupe shows Red paint and a white vinyl top (code A) in the PNT section. Soooo, why is the C08 listed on the Cowl tag - it's the rpo for vinyl top..

On the 70 442 vert the code A31 (Power Windows) appears.

I think the closest interpretation is ST 70 34267 E 149 BDY. It matches Peter's car almost exactly

From the way this thread is evolving, I don't think there's any definite answer we can give the OP in terms of replacing his Cowl tag other than our own guesses at what's right based on comparisons.

Wouldn't it be nice to find the original had just fallen into the cowl and overlooked when the screen was placed back on?

GAOldsman

Yep that was the first time I saw C08 on a tag personally. And the A31 on the other tag was a first for me as well except for the mid 60's versions.

As to the OP's tag I would venture to guess that my rendition on post #12 would be fairly close to accurate, being that as you pointed out several times the two blocks of six digits at the bottom may refer to a Special Order askew from standard protocol

hueveaj

Thanks to everyone who replied. I'll digest all the input here and come up with a plausible cowl tag for this car.

jstohlman

not that it means anything but I am Jim Stohlman and your car came from what was my Dads dealership from 1968-1982 ,, I owned it from 1982-2002,, Very cool to see a car from the old store ,,If you are in the area I will get you some old Stohlman Olds Tag Frames

hueveaj

Jim,
I sent you a longer e-mail, Thanks for posting, will keep you updated on the restoration progress!
Al