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So are you the expert? I didn't take the comments personally I am just pointing out the negativity . Who's reality ? Again there was alot of never going to make another after market block yet it was done. Is it so hard for everyone to even think someone could and may take up the task of starting a car magazine. Good grief . LOL
I positively think it ain't going to happen. If there were money in it, the brands would have been bought up and the mags would have continued.
I think there's a niche market for an "orphan cars" magazine. No Chevies, no Fords. A lot of "how to" articles, aftermarket support with shops/vendors that specializes in products for these brands. They have aftermarket blocks for AMC, Buick, Pontiac and finally Oldsmobile. You'd have the regular, rearend, transmission, brakes and aftermarket frames etc advertisers plus some smaller niche vendors. Subscribers could submit write ups on their cars and submit articles on niche events such as the Miller Oldsmobile Buick Cadillac meet at Norwalk. That would keep the costs down to enhance making a profit. Jmo, feel free to tear my idea to shreds. (:•》
I think there's a niche market for an "orphan cars" magazine. No Chevies, no Fords. A lot of "how to" articles, aftermarket support with shops/vendors that specializes in products for these brands. They have aftermarket blocks for AMC, Buick, Pontiac and finally Oldsmobile. You'd have the regular, rearend, transmission, brakes and aftermarket frames etc advertisers plus some smaller niche vendors. Subscribers could submit write ups on their cars and submit articles on niche events such as the Miller Oldsmobile Buick Cadillac meet at Norwalk. That would keep the costs down to enhance making a profit. Jmo, feel free to tear my idea to shreds. (:•》
oh oh oh a open mind.😂 I agree and you expressed what I was saying which most claim not profitable not going to happen wouldn't work etc ect. Plus you came up with a great name. (Orpan Cars) Thanks Kennybill for posting . Carry on everyone.
Well, having been informed in November that AutoWeek was done, I e-mailed Hemmings as I subscribe to Hemmings Classic Cars, and my subscription is up for renewal. I voiced my concerns of them ceasing publications as so many others recently folded. The replied that they had no intention of ceasing publication, so I told them that I will renew.
Well, having been informed in November that AutoWeek was done, I e-mailed Hemmings as I subscribe to Hemmings Classic Cars, and my subscription is up for renewal. I voiced my concerns of them ceasing publications as so many others recently folded. The replied that they had no intention of ceasing publication, so I told them that I will renew.
Street Rodder had no intention of ceasing publication when I renewed this past summer...
...you aren’t making your argument any stronger with a comment like that.
Your optimism over new Olds parts is fine, but ignores scores of parts, many of which were excellent, that came and went when the realities of the market hit. Your optimism and naivety ignores the realities of the entire print market - not just car magazines. Do some actual research into the fields that make up print media: photographers, reporters, writers, editors...all fields that are struggling mightily across the board. Some papers have eliminated photographers from the payroll entirely. Dig into TEN’s business and tell us exactly where they went wrong. While you’re at it, look at all the other magazines and papers that have folded over the past decade...
Once you have done that research, come back and tell us in detail how you plan to make a profitable magazine in today’s market. We’ll listen, but only with details that acknowledge the realities of modern life...not hand waving.
...you aren’t making your argument any stronger with a comment like that.
Your optimism over new Olds parts is fine, but ignores scores of parts, many of which were excellent, that came and went when the realities of the market hit. Your optimism and naivety ignores the realities of the entire print market - not just car magazines. Do some actual research into the fields that make up print media: photographers, reporters, writers, editors...all fields that are struggling mightily across the board. Some papers have eliminated photographers from the payroll entirely. Dig into TEN’s business and tell us exactly where they went wrong. While you’re at it, look at all the other magazines and papers that have folded over the past decade...
Once you have done that research, come back and tell us in detail how you plan to make a profitable magazine in today’s market. We’ll listen, but only with details that acknowledge the realities of modern life...not hand waving.
If i did all that I would be running a mag company which I have no interest to do. While I value your thoughts it has been pointed out it has been done.
Not really. It's just been pointed out that some magazines (and papers) are still holding on. Some always will. But just like film cameras, they'll always be on the edge of solvency, it'll always be a struggle, and they're never going to recover to the selection or quality that was available in the past.
Again - do some basic research. It doesn't require doing a full business plan. Just read an article or two about the struggles print media are facing. That really isn't that much to ask to make an informed argument, rather than speaking from a position of pure ignorance. It very clearly isn't as easy as you seem to think it is, so perhaps educate yourself before claiming it to be.
When I first started reading car magazines they were quite informative,that cannot be said about most of the car magazines pulled from production.
I found them over hyped picture books that were to far removed form the Diy Hot rod drag racer.
Just looked back at this thread. I have just renewed Hot Rod and Car Craft for I believe 3 years each. I haven't gotten a letter from Ten Publishing like you got, Joe. That's why I was so skeptical of this news of the titles ending at first. I wonder if I will be offered the same for what is left of my CC subs? I learned a lot of car workings from Hot Rod and Car Craft. None of my friends would read the articles- they would mostly just look at the pictures. I remember reading articles on engine builds and being completely confused about camshafts, crankshafts, valves, duration, etc,etc. Sometimes I would read and reread a article because I wanted to know how a engine worked,. My Dad didn't really know and none of my friends did. I remember reading articles and being completely confused on how a engine could work. But maybe next month there would be a engine build with a picture and description of a timing chain and I realized each engine has a camshaft AND a crankshaft! OH I get it! Anyway, car magazines was really a big part of my childhood and I will really miss them.
As an update, I had just renewed my Street Rodder for three years (good through Feb 2024). The offer was to give me the equivalent subscription in one of the remaining magazines (on line only, NOT a print subscription) plus six months of MT streaming. I'm already paid up on Hot Rod through 2024 also, and I just paid for a year of MT streaming. I have no interest in Motor Trend or Four Wheeler magazines. I called the customer service number and told them that, asking "what else ya got". They refunded my three years of payment to Street Rodder. It pays to be the squeaky wheel.
Good info Greg. My first car was when I was in high school (61-64) was a 1940 Ford. I bought a 265 SBC out of a junkyard (got it for $55 and saved $5 by pulling it myself). I rebuilt it and installed it in the Ford with Hurst motor mounts and a Wilcap adapter bought from Honest Charley. I used a 50 Mercury clutch that mounted on the Chevy flywheel and worked with the Ford throwout bearing. I was 16 years old and was able to do all this from what I learned from reading Hot Rod and probably Car Craft. There was no internet or anybody to go ask how to do it. I think back and am amazed I was able to rebuild the engine and make all of it work at 16 years old. It held together and I drove the car my entire senior year. I did go through about 4-5 transmissions and one rear end though.
Good info Greg. My first car was when I was in high school (61-64) was a 1940 Ford. I bought a 265 SBC out of a junkyard (got it for $55 and saved $5 by pulling it myself). I rebuilt it and installed it in the Ford with Hurst motor mounts and a Wilcap adapter bought from Honest Charley. I used a 50 Mercury clutch that mounted on the Chevy flywheel and worked with the Ford throwout bearing. I was 16 years old and was able to do all this from what I learned from reading Hot Rod and probably Car Craft. There was no internet or anybody to go ask how to do it. I think back and am amazed I was able to rebuild the engine and make all of it work at 16 years old. It held together and I drove the car my entire senior year. I did go through about 4-5 transmissions and one rear end though.
i just received my newest issue of Hot Rod magazine. As one of the few automotive enthusiasts who enjoy electrical work, I was eager to read the article on relays. I was hoping to maybe learn something new, or maybe get some ideas for a future project. My interests faded before I finished reading the first page. If this is the quality of tech articles to be expected in the future, maybe it would be best if print did go extinct.
Here is the article I’m referring. Read it and share your thoughts.
The part where they are describing the pinout and function to the typical 5 pin relay. It’s completely wrong. Pin 30 and 87 are normally closed. When the relay coil is energized, pin 30 is disconnected from 87, and connected to 87a. They say 87a is used to connect another load.
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This below would imply that a connection to 87 (is necessary) but that is not the case. You could have a situation where you use 87a and not 87. Either way can happen. I never put any more faith in magazine tech articles than I do the internet but I sill like to read some of them
"Terminal 87 = Connects to device" "Terminal 87a = Connects to a second device (not necessary)"
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30 is the common terminal & makes contact with 87 upon the coil energizing, while 87a disconnects or opens.
87 & 87a are never connected to each other or energized at the same time.
Just got my letter from Ten pub. They did offer me 6 mos of free motor trend streaming,(i'm paid up for MCR for that amount of time but of course I have to set up an account with credit card to activate it. For free I guess I'll do it then cancel it when the time expires. I'm definitely NOT interested at $4.99 a month!!!
I finally got the letter from Ten Publishing. I had recently renewed Car Craft until Dec. 2021. They offered me the digital on line stuff which I don't want. I am going to call them and ask for a refund or the same amount of issues being added to my Hot Rod subscription if they will do that. Just like some of you guys have mentioned- In the latest issue of Car Craft I received a few days ago there are 2 cards with offers to subscribe!!
I finally got the letter from Ten Publishing. I had recently renewed Car Craft until Dec. 2021. They offered me the digital on line stuff which I don't want. I am going to call them and ask for a refund or the same amount of issues being added to my Hot Rod subscription if they will do that. Just like some of you guys have mentioned- In the latest issue of Car Craft I received a few days ago there are 2 cards with offers to subscribe!!
Please post how that turns out. Maybe more of us need to call.
Please post how that turns out. Maybe more of us need to call.
Yep. I called today and it was no problem to switch the remaining Car Craft subscription to Hot Rod. At least she said no problem and it sounded like she did it right when I was on the line. We'll see. I recommend you all call. They must have known that most of us who subscribed to paper magazines wouldn't want on line magazines or we already would have done it by now!
