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Old Feb 28, 2018 | 04:57 PM
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ebay advice needed

I have a bidder now on my Jetfire that has 0 feedback and joined eBay today. This makes me very uncomfortable. Is there any advice you have for me on this? Any experience with a first day eBayer? Anyone from here interested in the car and just joined? I would feel better If I knew who it was or at least something.

I sent them a message and asked for more info because of them being new.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 05:13 PM
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Edit the auction, if you can, to say no zero feedback bidders.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 05:22 PM
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I just figured out how to block him. I told him to let me know who he is and I may consider unblocking him. I would only do that if it was someone from here or I knew them somehow.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 05:25 PM
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Can someone retract their own bid without approval from me? I smell a rat and don't trust what I am seeing!
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 05:33 PM
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The high bidder only has 2 transactions and we have been talking. I don't even like having this guy bidding but he has give me enough information that I feel he is likely ok. I just feel something is not right. I hope someone out bids them all.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 05:52 PM
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Sorry Eric but I just would not trust him. Take a look at his transactions and see what they were and the amount of them. I have never sold anything on ebay. I just buy. I know there are some of these guys that play some dirty tricks. Seller Beware.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 06:28 PM
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I have sold several things on ebay. Certainly nothing of that value, and I guess I do not understand your concern. As long as you ensure you have the money before he gets the car. What is the real issue? Not trying to be negative just trying to learn and understand. Your ad seems pretty clear "Car is sold AS IS and no warranty or refunds of any kind." I can only assume that would protect you from any ebay issues. You are always going to take a risk selling high dollar items on ebay.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 06:48 PM
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Welcome to the world of eBay. I got hosed on a $120 item that I bought 4-1/2 weeks ago and it's going to take weeks to get my money back...

I helped a friend sell two cars on eBay (nearly 10 years ago)... we had a situation on one that seemed really sketchy, like you described, and everything worked out, luckily.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 06:58 PM
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I have sold several things on ebay. Certainly nothing of that value, and I guess I do not understand your concern. As long as you ensure you have the money before he gets the car. What is the real issue? Not trying to be negative just trying to learn and understand. Your ad seems pretty clear "Car is sold AS IS and no warranty or refunds of any kind." I can only assume that would protect you from any ebay issues. You are always going to take a risk selling high dollar items on ebay.
I would never let the car go without the money in the bank but I want to be sure it sells and not have to relist it. I want this car gone. The sooner it is gone the sooner I can start on the 62 restoration.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 06:59 PM
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Sounds like you have it worked out. Just be aware that if you take any funds via paypal ; even for a deposit the transaction can be disputed and held up - even if you stated "Car is sold AS IS and no warranty or refunds of any kind."


Good Luck with the Sale Eric.
Old Feb 28, 2018 | 11:42 PM
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This stuff I just don't understand.
My dad was never on ebay. I sent him a link to a ford retractable , as he has been wanting one forever.
He joined Ebay and bid, Even messaging the seller. and got the same LAME, crap reasoning.
He really like the car and was going to go to the airport to go look at it that day.
I asked him what happened? He said if the seller is going to filter bidders like that, and want his personal information(it wasn't just name and address either) before unblocking him to bid, He doesn't think dealing with the seller would be worth it.
I felt bad as I sent him the link and he was bent out of scape about it for months. correct car, correct options and correct color he wanted.
I know there is a bunch of scams and dead beat bidders on ebay, but I'm sure there is club member and family that send a link to someone and they'll open an account on ebay to bid on it.
I know it might be shocking but not everyone has used ebay.
I've had an account since 2010 or 2009 . but only sold 3 things and bought maybe 5 over that time. Have great feedback rating, but those feedback ratings have been a royal joke for a good 3+ years,So I still contact a seller before I place bid. unless it is a cheap item.
I think ebay motors should set up an escrow/hold through paypal .
requiring the bidders/buyers on vehicles that are over 1000.00 to put/transfer 250.00 into the escrow/hold to bid. If you are the high bidder and flake out on buying it you loose that escrow hold, ebay gets 25.00 of it/ paypal gets 25.00 of it an the seller if he has to relist it because of a fake bidder gets the 200.00.
This stop the b/s bidders that are never going to buy, and limit the shill bidders,Unless they are willing to eat 250. fee if they are the high bidder and not a buyer.
If you get hit with that fee for being a deadbeat bidder your feedback rating should take a good hit and it be noted for all to see.
Most ad's/auctions require a deposit within x hours. showing good faith ,if you follow through with that and then go to pick it up and it isn't what the seller claimed in the listing and don't buy it. you don't get the fee or the feedback hit for not buying ..
This would stop a lot of the b/s with ebay motors.
They could even do the same with parts, a % of the your highest bid , goes into the escrow and same rules apply .

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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 03:08 AM
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I think you have some good ideas that would work.

I don't know how it works but I was told there is some kind of fraud that can happen on higher priced items on eBay. Somehow they will have three bidders and between them they will run the price way up to keep other people from wanting to bid. Then near the end two of them will retract their bids and the third guy will have the price drop all the way down to his first bid. Not sure I am telling this right but with only having 0 or 2 transactions I was wondering if they setup fake accounts for something like this. Hate to say it but in this day and age, I have become very untrusting of many situations.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 04:37 AM
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I have bought and sold small items on ebay but never sold a big item. How much do you stand to loose if the buyer backs out? I know it must happen a lot because you see things relisted and seller puts in " relisted due to prior buyer backing out", or something like that. Well, good luck with it Eric.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 04:56 AM
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I have bought and sold small items on ebay but never sold a big item. How much do you stand to loose if the buyer backs out? I know it must happen a lot because you see things relisted and seller puts in " relisted due to prior buyer backing out", or something like that. Well, good luck with it Eric.
I would loose $150 and then have to apply to be reimbursed by eBay because the bidder did not follow through. Then I have to relist it and people suspect I am up to no good because the first listing did not work out and they wonder why. Makes people think the first guy backed out because something was wrong. Also, after people go through bidding the first time on the car many don't want to go through it again so they just stay away and sometimes look at it as damaged goods. You just don't get the excitement the second go around. I have never seen anything be relisted and get anywhere near what it got to the first time it was listed.
Some of this is why I put it at no opening bid and no reserve. I knew it would bring enough money, I just wanted to use the no reserve and no opening bid to generate excitement and generate more people looking and talking about it. If I relist it, all that will be gone the second go around.

The reason for my original post is resolved now but still nice to see other input for future use.

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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 04:58 AM
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I had a Mustang listed on EBAY and when the bidding ended a guy made the deposit and because I wouldn't deliver (400 miles one way for FREE) he wanted EBAY to cancel his bid and return his deposit, THEY DID JUST THAT.

I'm DONE with ebay.

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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 05:24 AM
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Only car I bought from ebay was that 442 I bought locally that you know of Eric, and I went and saw it first. Plus, Ebay is NOT the law; if you get scammed, you can refuse the sale, it's not binding.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 05:25 AM
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I can tell you this, you are going to be nervous about this transaction on eBay until the day the car is gone, no matter the feedback number a buyer has.
One of my first bids on ebay was for a 1970 W30 sold by a member here, he did not know me and I did not know him. While I did not have the highest bid, I am thankful that I was at least given the opportunity to bid.
I just looked at you ebay ad and it seems you have about 19 bidders with several set to automatic bids. Hey, just 3 1/2 more days to go. If someone really wants your car the last hour or so should get interesting. I will be watching. Good Luck.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 05:41 AM
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Only car I bought from ebay was that 442 I bought locally that you know of Eric, and I went and saw it first. Plus, Ebay is NOT the law; if you get scammed, you can refuse the sale, it's not binding.
Absolutely. Lots of people don't know this.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 05:47 AM
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I can tell you this, you are going to be nervous about this transaction on eBay until the day the car is gone, no matter the feedback number a buyer has.
One of my first bids on ebay was for a 1970 W30 sold by a member here, he did not know me and I did not know him. While I did not have the highest bid, I am thankful that I was at least given the opportunity to bid.
I just looked at you ebay ad and it seems you have about 19 bidders with several set to automatic bids. Hey, just 3 1/2 more days to go. If someone really wants your car the last hour or so should get interesting. I will be watching. Good Luck.
I am all for giving new people a chance on anything under a few hundred bucks but on something this expensive and with all the fraud I hear of, I want to know at least a name and something more about them. This is what feedback on eBay is all about. I will not say much till the auction is over but I have been contacted by enough people that the last hour may be very interesting. Evan have someone wanting a buy it now price and pull it off of eBay. That option is tempting but we are going to let it ride.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 08:45 AM
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My last Corvette was sold thru E-bay. In the end it was the buyers bank sending funds to my bank. Once the transaction clears with my bank its a done deal. Buyer gives an order for pickup. Truck comes and picks it up. I sign off on the pickup and hand over my signed notorized title to the driver and its gone. It took twenty days but it was going to the Netherlands. Car goes nowhere until the funds are in my account.
It should be that simple and E-Bay had nothing to worry about because they got there fee.

I hope it works out for you aand don't stress to much.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 08:59 AM
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I have not sold anything as expensive as this car, but I have sold vintage electronics on ebay for as much as $2000. My experience was that the buyer paid through Paypal, but Paypal held the money until either the buyer reported the item as received or until the shipping service showed the item as delivered. I didn't have a problem with this as I am as unknown to the buyer as much as he is unknown to me. In the end, I always got my money.

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Old Mar 1, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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My Ebay selling rules are as follows:

1. Set a reserve price or a minimum starting bid to cover your initial investment that you would like to recoup... You can always sell for less then reserve when auction ends by contacting the high bidder...
2. No PAYPAL, except for maybe a small deposit of good faith by the buyer... Funds must clear the bank before vehicle is transferred...
3. Buyer arranges for pickup and/or shipping after funds have cleared...
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 04:52 PM
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IMO, regardless of the bidder, as long as the final payoff (after the immediate deposit) is done in cash, or a bank to bank transfer, you have nothing to worry about.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 05:48 PM
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I have bought and sold vehicles on EBay, and my experience has been good. Again this is not for the money your car is hitting in bids, but enough that I could not afford to be scammed out of.

My general rule is if someone is asking the same type of question I would ask then they are probably a sincere potential buyer. If the questions are goofy, or no questions seller be ware.

Your due diligence is always your best friend.
Old Mar 1, 2018 | 06:03 PM
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I see you had your original problem solved, but take a look at these few eBay help pages and see if anything applies:

https://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/buy...uirements.html
http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/manage_bidders_ov.html

I can tell you when I had the W-30 on eBay I had a few sleepless nights. However it all worked out in the end. If it would have ended with a buyer that I couldn't verify or that seemed to be problematic, I would have just relisted. There are some people out there looking to make bids on things they never will follow through on. But that's the chance you take when you get the visibility of eBay. Well worth it. Good luck.
Old Mar 2, 2018 | 05:50 PM
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Update! The 0 transaction bidder just contacted me. I jumped the gun because it turns out that I know him. Well, I sort of know him.... He owns a former car of mine and we talked a year ago about it. I guess I am just a little jumpy over this but with all the stories of fraud I hear about I just reacted to quick... Thanks everyone for the help and support.
Old Mar 2, 2018 | 06:08 PM
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Ebay....using xjv790 as a cover up.. I was highest buyer full contact...
I see xjv790 keep bidding me up.
lost the deal but was 2nd inline for a 40k car.
so looking into xjv790 I see on an eBay this guy keeps bidding people stuff up.
so seller wanted xjv790 to but it....never did....so I say...i was at 27k..bidding stoped till this guy drew it up..so I paid 30k on a 38k car...

eBay to me sucks the past 15years...
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