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Old February 22nd, 2021 | 09:37 AM
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Do You Speak Hot Rodder?

From Hagerty Driver's Club magazine, issue 64.

I knew most, but I had never heard of Pancaked or Pizza Cutters.



Old February 22nd, 2021 | 09:51 AM
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They misspelled "Pro-Fairground" and "Clone"!
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Rocketguy
I knew most, but I had never heard of Pancaked or Pizza Cutters.
Clearly you're too young.

Originally Posted by Koda
They misspelled "Pro-Fairground" and "Clone"!
Now THAT'S funny, but "clone" is just a misspelling of "fake".
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 02:54 PM
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Bought my first car mag when I was 12 and have been a gear head ever since. I'm 76 now.
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 05:57 PM
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Been around cars over 50 years, some of these terms are regional..never in my life heard of ugga dugga, bell flower tips or bellybutton..
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 06:11 PM
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Do you speak jive.
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Andylappin
Been around cars over 50 years, some of these terms are regional..never in my life heard of ugga dugga, bell flower tips or bellybutton..
C'mon, seriously? Heck, I use "bellybutton motor" all the time around here. I use a different orifice when the topic is LS swaps.
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 06:44 PM
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do you speak jive.
😂😂
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 06:51 PM
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C'mon, seriously? Heck, I use "bellybutton motor" all the time around here. I use a different orifice when the topic is LS swaps.
never in my life even heard anything like that..lol.
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 06:52 PM
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"Elephant" only applies to the 2nd Gen Hemi? I thought "Elephant" began in the '50s with the first-gen Chrysler Hemi (not so much with the DeSoto or Dodge Hemi).

The whole point of calling the SBC the "Mouse" motor was the old story of Elephants being scared of mice.
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 06:56 PM
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Do you speak jive.
No, but I can speak pig latin fluently.
Old February 22nd, 2021 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Schurkey
"Elephant" only applies to the 2nd Gen Hemi? I thought "Elephant" began in the '50s with the first-gen Chrysler Hemi (not so much with the DeSoto or Dodge Hemi).
The whole point of calling the SBC the "Mouse" motor was the old story of Elephants being scared of mice.
I seem to recall the early Hemi's just being referred to as a "hemi". When Keith Black and Ed Donavan introduced a "426 style hemi" block for top fuel, the term "Elephant" motor was coined. After that came the "Mouse motor", "Semi Hemi", "Rat motor" nicknames. The nicknames stuck. Today the nicknames "Small block" and "Big block" cross manufacturer lines to specify engine blocks style.
......Just my two cents worth.
Old February 23rd, 2021 | 04:09 AM
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Do you speak jive.
Cut me some slack, Jack!!

One of my favorite movies!

Old February 23rd, 2021 | 06:40 AM
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Well, for one, they got "pancaked" wrong. Or more precisely, this is the more modern version. (1990's-up)The original version meant cutting off the front of a hood overhang on an older car, to make the opening part of the hood flat, or flatter. Some even went so far as to completely weld the hood shut, then cut out a much smaller opening, only on the top, making almost completely flat.
Old February 23rd, 2021 | 09:04 AM
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Even worse

What’s worse is when you taco your pizza cutters. That’s just a bad day.
Old February 23rd, 2021 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by chopolds
Well, for one, they got "pancaked" wrong. Or more precisely, this is the more modern version. (1990's-up)The original version meant cutting off the front of a hood overhang on an older car, to make the opening part of the hood flat, or flatter. Some even went so far as to completely weld the hood shut, then cut out a much smaller opening, only on the top, making almost completely flat.
That's what I've always understood pancaking to be. See Ford Thunderbird 55-60, Corvette and AC Cobra for factory examples.

Knew most of it but never heard of uggadugga either.

Bellflowers look good on cars with enough length between rear wheel opening and bumper. Neighbor has a black cherry 04 Grand Marquis he put them on and they set it off.
Old February 23rd, 2021 | 03:29 PM
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ugga dugga is not a car thing, it's a union trades thing, like millwrighting.
Old February 23rd, 2021 | 05:22 PM
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We had a local expression called 'Cave man'. For example "You really did a caveman on that part to make it fit". In other words, used whatever tool was around or whatever fasteners were used to affix it. It could even be a part that was different and needed a bit of convincing to fit. Kind of rough around the edges so to speak but it did the job. I honestly thought 'Ugga-dugga' meant you torqued in on by hand hard as you could muster with whatever said tool was around that could reasonably do the job. See "Tighten it up till it breaks then back it off half a turn'.
Old February 23rd, 2021 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Vistabrat72
We had a local expression called 'Cave man'. For example "You really did a caveman on that part to make it fit". In other words, used whatever tool was around or whatever fasteners were used to affix it. It could even be a part that was different and needed a bit of convincing to fit. Kind of rough around the edges so to speak but it did the job. I honestly thought 'Ugga-dugga' meant you torqued in on by hand hard as you could muster with whatever said tool was around that could reasonably do the job. See "Tighten it up till it breaks then back it off half a turn'.
Ugga-Dugga, the diesel manager at the shop I worked at in the '80s spoke in hushed tones about a ¾ drive impact gun they built with two air lines, a hardened hammer, and a polished barrel that would actually over-torque main cap bolts on diesel blocks. Ugga-Dugga!
Torque values;
Turn it 'till it squeaks and spit on it...
Tighten 'till it smokes and hit it with a rock...
Turn it another blonde, red, brown hair...
Hang out in a fun diesel shop long enough and you'll pick up on them.

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Old February 23rd, 2021 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by cjsdad
Torque values;
Turn it 'till it squeaks and spit on it...
Tighten 'till it smokes and hit it with a rock...
Turn it another blonde, red, brown hair...
Hang out in a fun diesel shop long enough and you'll pick up on them.
....And we can't forget the requisite cussing up a storm!
Old February 23rd, 2021 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by OLDSter Ralph
I seem to recall the early Hemi's just being referred to as a "hemi". When Keith Black and Ed Donavan introduced a "426 style hemi" block for top fuel, the term "Elephant" motor was coined. After that came the "Mouse motor", "Semi Hemi", "Rat motor" nicknames. The nicknames stuck. Today the nicknames "Small block" and "Big block" cross manufacturer lines to specify engine blocks style.
......Just my two cents worth.

Actually Ed Donovan based his 417 hemi on the 392 Black based his on the 426.

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Old February 24th, 2021 | 04:19 AM
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I guess I speak fluent Hot Rod. I know most of the terms mentioned. Never heard this definition of pancake before, that’s a new one.

The definition of pancake I’m familiar with usually revolves around the off road crown, meaning putting a truck on the roof snd flattening the cab.
Old February 24th, 2021 | 07:10 AM
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Actually Ed Donovan based his 417 hemi on the 394 Black based his on the 426.
I wasn't aware of that, I shall update my memory. Thanks
Old February 24th, 2021 | 07:18 AM
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They left off hammered and slamed.
hammered - chopped top
slamed - lowered
Old February 24th, 2021 | 08:25 AM
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Chopped, dropped, and shaved were the standard in my area.
Old February 24th, 2021 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by gs72
Actually Ed Donovan based his 417 hemi on the 392 Black based his on the 426.
Who besides me remembers Hot Rod magazine's cover photo of the Milodon Mastodon? (bigger than an Elephant.)
Old February 24th, 2021 | 07:42 PM
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Blew beer outta my nose at that snip from Airplane. Can you imagine the fun the actors had making that! High-quality American-made film right there. Older IS better,
Old February 25th, 2021 | 05:09 AM
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That’s a movie that would never be made today. Definitely a time when society wasn't so easily triggered, you were allowed to have a different opinion or point of view without worrying about offending anyone.


There are many phrases and quotes from those movies (along with Fletch, the Naked Gun) that I use as often as possible. Unfortunately, I need to work with a older crowd. Most kids don’t get the references.
Old February 25th, 2021 | 06:37 AM
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A couple years ago Blazing Saddles was on the TV at the local restaurant/bar. The bar tender in his 20's had never seen the movie. He was quite surprised at the humor.
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