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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 12:51 PM
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Deleting prices in for sale ads

I've been trying to do some research to gather pricing on some parts I want to sell and buy. As I scroll through the For Sale ads I see a lot of sold items that the seller has gone back and marked Sold but also deleted the price. Is there a reason for this? Seems to me it is detrimental for the people trying to use the Search function to gain some knowledge as far as what the going rate is on certain items. I hate to be the guy that makes a post asking "What's this worth?" for every part I have.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GN1220
I've been trying to do some research to gather pricing on some parts I want to sell and buy. As I scroll through the For Sale ads I see a lot of sold items that the seller has gone back and marked Sold but also deleted the price. Is there a reason for this? Seems to me it is detrimental for the people trying to use the Search function to gain some knowledge as far as what the going rate is on certain items. I hate to be the guy that makes a post asking "What's this worth?" for every part I have.
I agree, I find this irritating. It would be nice to be able to look back and see what stuff sold for.

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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 04:11 PM
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X10. I have never understood that either. It is irritating. I would like to hear why it's done.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 05:10 PM
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Simple, peop[le selling dont want others knowing what kind of money they are making.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 05:32 PM
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I couldn't care less and I would imagine most don't either.
Amen. I don't get it. We all see car prices and they stay. It's called reference. Not trying to pick at any one member. I am seriously curious why prices get removed. It's good to check and see what you might expect to pay for something.

It's funny you brought it up. I have been thinking the same thing for awhile.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 05:38 PM
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Amen. I don't get it. We all see car prices and they stay. It's called reference. Not trying to pick at any one member. I am seriously curious why prices get removed. It's good to check and see what you might expect to pay for something.

It's funny you brought it up. I have been thinking the same thing for awhile.
"reference" exactly. I've been searching for a while looking for parts to see what to expect to pay when I find it or what I might expect to ask for something and 9 times out of 10 anything sold and the price is gone.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 06:49 PM
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Typically, it’s a seller who is a regular seller with a stockpile of parts who doesn’t want to be held to their own previous sale prices on the same part so the new offer price is higher than the last (undisclosed) sale price.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 07:02 PM
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Typically, it’s a seller who is a regular seller with a stockpile of parts who doesn’t want to be held to their own previous sale prices on the same part so the new offer price is higher than the last (undisclosed) sale price.
I'm the new guy here and not meaning to bash anyone. Through my searches it seems to be a common practice among most sellers. I just don't get it. Even if I were a regular and sold a super rare whatever for $1,000 then advertised another super rare whatever for $2,000 it all depends on the buyer. Maybe buyer number 2 really needed the super rare whatever or the market changed, who cares? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything. But for a ******* like me just looking to re-live his youth and piece together the car he had in high school it makes it hard to know what things are actually worth.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 07:17 PM
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Shipping prices have shot to unheard of levels. For a variety of reasons, will say some are valid, others are not. Many light long boxes (trims for example) now have Balloon charges that don't appear until it is brought to the counter (USPS, Fedex, etc).
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 07:23 PM
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Shipping prices have shot to unheard of levels. For a variety of reasons, will say some are valid, others are not. Many light long boxes (trims for example) now have Balloon charges that don't appear until it is brought to the counter (USPS, Fedex, etc).
But that shouldn't be of concern for the actual price of said part. Everything is always "plus shipping"
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 07:26 PM
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But that shouldn't be of concern for the actual price of said part. Everything is always "plus shipping"
Exactly. Start quoting the price in your own response. Then it will always be there. It's silly to remove the asking price.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by gn1220
i'm the new guy here and not meaning to bash anyone. Through my searches it seems to be a common practice among most sellers. I just don't get it. Even if i were a regular and sold a super rare whatever for $1,000 then advertised another super rare whatever for $2,000 it all depends on the buyer. Maybe buyer number 2 really needed the super rare whatever or the market changed, who cares? Nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything. But for a ******* like me just looking to re-live his youth and piece together the car he had in high school it makes it hard to know what things are actually worth.
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Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:40 PM
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It is no ones business but the seller and buyer.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 08:46 PM
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IMO, it doesn't make any sense when a seller lowers the price of an item, but doesn't leave the original price stand to show the reduction. Again, IMO, when a seller says price reduced, and changes the price in the original post - did they truly reduce the price???
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:02 PM
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It is no ones business but the seller and buyer.
But it's public information WHEN THE SELLER POSTS THE AD WITH PRICE.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:04 PM
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It is no ones business but the seller and buyer.
The rules of the forum is not to delete ad info or pricing. It's good historical info for future reference.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
The rules of the forum is not to delete ad info or pricing. It's good historical info for future reference.
Then those people and ads should be removed just like my post was removed for mentioning a political figure.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:37 PM
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Really simple. Quote the ad. Then it is always there.

PS: I have always had the take that people that buy whatever and mark it up don't want you to know what they paid. Why a seller removes the price? I still want to know the why?
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:42 PM
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Really simple. Quote the ad. Then it is always there.
My whole point is that when doing a search of older ads, say a few days, weeks or even months, when you go back to it the prices are gone. Some of us can't follow the for sale section in real time 24/7.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:44 PM
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My whole point is that when doing a search of older ads, say a few days, weeks or even months, when you go back to it the prices are gone. Some of us can't follow the for sale section in real time 24/7.
I get it. Get what I am saying. Quote the ad. You don't even have to comment. Quote it. Then it can't be changed. 👍🍻

I don't get why Sellers pull the price. I would still love to know the why.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:47 PM
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I get it. Get what I am saying. Quote the ad. You don't even have to comment. Quote it. Then it can't be changed. 👍🍻

I don't get why Sellers pull the price. I would still love to know the why.
But I can't QUOTE it if I see it after the price has already been deleted.
Old Jan 26, 2022 | 09:50 PM
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But I can't QUOTE it if I see it after the price has already been deleted.
Welp. Quote any ad you watch then.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 05:34 AM
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Welp. Quote any ad you watch then.
I think you're missing the point. I'm talking about when using the search function to look at older ads that have already been edited.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 06:48 AM
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I agree, I find this irritating. It would be nice to be able to look back and see what stuff sold for.

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All that would tell you is the asking price, not the price the item sold for. Don't confuse the two.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 07:41 AM
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Just put your ad in parts wanted, someone who has the part will respond ..they will give you a price, you can negotiate or not. Everybody has a different idea of whats a fair price.. if I needsonething that does not come up often for sale, guess what, I have to pay the price.. I get what your saying, as the moderator says, its supposed to be left intact..if not then shine on..no reason to beat a deadhorse
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 07:46 AM
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This discussion sounds familiar.. hmm, where did I hear it? Oh yeah, I heard the government wants to monitor all personal transactions even though they should have nothing to do with private transactions.
Yeah, thats where I heard it.. and if you don't follow their rules, they will cancel you.
Yup, and that part you paid $200 for a and flipped for $1000 is taxable. As a capital gain if you’re not a business, and at a very high rate if you had it less than a year. The more information you give them the better for them.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 07:53 AM
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This discussion sounds familiar.. hmm, where did I hear it? Oh yeah, I heard the government wants to monitor all personal transactions even though they should have nothing to do with private transactions.
Yeah, thats where I heard it.. and if you don't follow their rules, they will cancel you.
Well it is a privately owned forum that has rules and consequences if said rules aren't followed that everyone agrees to. But yea, you found me out. I'm actually from the IRS DHS CIA FBI CoastGuard here to track people's money.
This went off the rails quickly and if a moderator could just delete this entire thing that would be great. I'll stay in my lane from now on.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 08:22 AM
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I am sure the IRS is on this site everyday monitoring what is sold for $100 - $200 and then tracking the User (seller) down to their SSN and flagging them to see if they declared the sale on their return. If the seller lists something it is his ad and he should be able to delete or modify it as he sees fit. I have heard the forum rule many times about posting a selling price but this is the first time I have ever heard about not being able to delete a post or selling price. It would be interesting to see a lists of the rules of this forum.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 09:11 AM
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I am sure the IRS is on this site everyday monitoring what is sold for $100 - $200 and then tracking the User (seller) down to their SSN and flagging them to see if they declared the sale on their return. If the seller lists something it is his ad and he should be able to delete or modify it as he sees fit. I have heard the forum rule many times about posting a selling price but this is the first time I have ever heard about not being able to delete a post or selling price. It would be interesting to see a lists of the rules of this forum.
Simple, look at the sticky on top of every classified forum.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 09:21 AM
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...this is the first time I have ever heard about not being able to delete a post or selling price.
Glenn - There is one small caveat to deleting a post. The person who "created" the "thread" also creates the very first "post" contained within the newly created "thread". Once the "thread" is created, no one outside of a Moderator or Administrator can "delete" the thread; albeit, the "creator" can neither delete the "thread" nor can the "creator" delete the very first post to the thread. The creator can however, EDIT the first post of the thread (again, they cannot delete the first post contained within the thread as the first post is "linked" to the creation of the "thread" itself - they can only EDIT the first post). A member can delete any other "post" they create anywhere else besides the first post of a thread they have created.

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Old Jan 27, 2022 | 10:19 AM
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Yup, and that part you paid $200 for a and flipped for $1000 is taxable. As a capital gain if you’re not a business, and at a very high rate if you had it less than a year. The more information you give them the better for them.
Capital gains tax (short term or long term, > 1 year) applies only to investment assets that are sold, such as stocks, bonds, or real estate. The selling of inventory, such as parts (or pretty much anything else), the profit is taxed as ordinary income, with no benefit on how long the inventory was held. The key word is profit. For example, at a garage sale, you may of sold $1000 of your stuff that Saturday morning, but it is unlikely you made a profit, since the stuff cost more when you bought it new.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 02:42 PM
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It is no ones business but the seller and buyer.
Exactly.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 03:33 PM
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Exactly.
The selling price is none of anyone's business but that is not what I'm talking about. Get rid of prices on eBay, marketplace and Craigslist since it's nobody's business. Might as well keep Barrett-Jackson a secret too. Maybe just pass notes around.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 04:20 PM
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I find it hilarious you big sellers think because the original price was deleted, the big guy can’t find out anything….

Here’s a heads up,, if they decided to crack down and go after some ta xes , they have access to every single message, past post, and private pm’s if they wanted.. everything, and I mean everything is saved. It’s never deleted, ever.

even private text messages on your phone to another member about a deal..they have access to it

They’ll get you if they want.

Oh, and it’s not the smartest move to mention things that start with I, and have a middle letter R, and a last letter S on public forums.

you are the low hanging fruit for those guys..wake up
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 04:29 PM
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I am getting a real kick out of you guys that think the IRS is watching guys selling parts on this site that are making a few hundred or even a few thousand dollars on here selling parts. No way they are devoting resources to this. They have much larger fish to fry.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
I find it hilarious you big sellers think because the original price was deleted, the big guy can’t find out anything….

Here’s a heads up,, if they decided to crack down and go after some ta xes , they have access to every single message, past post, and private pm’s if they wanted.. everything, and I mean everything is saved. It’s never deleted, ever.

even private text messages on your phone to another member about a deal..they have access to it

They’ll get you if they want.

Oh, and it’s not the smartest move to mention things that start with I, and have a middle letter R, and a last letter S on public forums.

you are the low hanging fruit for those guys..wake up
This entire thing has gone way beyond foil hat stupid and I wish I could delete it. From now on anything I post for sale will have a ridiculous asking price since apparently current values are top secret information. Then I'll run back and delete the price so the IRS doesn't see what I was asking for a horn button.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 04:34 PM
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Ha ha ha. It was such a simple question asked. I am still surprised that it was never answered.
Old Jan 27, 2022 | 04:44 PM
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Ha ha ha. It was such a simple question asked. I am still surprised that it was never answered.
You're right. I'll adjust my foil hat and maybe the voices will give me an answer tonight while I'm talking to my Oujea board. 🙄
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You are killing me with the tin foil hat reference. Like the man gives a 💩 about a hundred dollar car part.
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You are killing me with the tin foil hat reference. Like the man gives a 💩 about a hundred dollar car part.
Could be Eleventy billion dollars but nobody will ever know because it was deleted!



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