decided to pull the engine
October 15th, 2013, 10:42 AM
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decided to pull the engine
the weather has been nice and i was also inspired by macadoo so i have started stripping the engine i havent pulled an engine in a while except for my boat some years back (i used a john deere back-hoe at work to pull it, load it into my truck and work on it at home)
October 15th, 2013, 10:52 AM
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i entered this without finishing...anyway i am in pretty tight quaters at home but think i have enough height clearance. i want to do some housekeeping to the engine i did a leakdown before i pulled it and i'm at 10% or less so thats good...want to change a few head bolts,paint,valve seals and look and poke around a bit i'm a little rusty at this but like i said the weather is been nice and i dont have much to do some i'm bored...some pics to follow
October 15th, 2013, 11:13 AM
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these pics are kind of random order from yesterday and today....not off to a great start the engine hoist knocked over my radiator so i dont know if it got damaged
header bolts came out easy thanks to never-seez
header bolts came out easy thanks to never-seez
October 15th, 2013, 11:49 AM
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i cut and welded this engine stand back in the day but the wheels are crappy and lost their ball bearings and plus a few tack welds on the wheel frame, so i decided to buy a harbor freight 1 ton stand yesterday...front wheels dont swivel and the hardware had no lock washers but i guess it will be fine
October 15th, 2013, 12:09 PM
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OK, I'm in CT as well.
My observations are;
1. We are 2 weeks from November in the Northeast.
2. The nose of your beauty is at the garage door, means your a$$ will be in the breeze, when puttin' her back in.
3. I hope you're faster than I am.
All kidding aside, Best of luck with the project.
I'm having a 455 built with much help by Steve Minore.
We have a sheltered place picked out to do the 350 to 455 transplant, hopefully before thanksgiving. Can't wait to melt my old skinny radials.
My observations are;
1. We are 2 weeks from November in the Northeast.
2. The nose of your beauty is at the garage door, means your a$$ will be in the breeze, when puttin' her back in.
3. I hope you're faster than I am.
All kidding aside, Best of luck with the project.
I'm having a 455 built with much help by Steve Minore.
We have a sheltered place picked out to do the 350 to 455 transplant, hopefully before thanksgiving. Can't wait to melt my old skinny radials.
October 15th, 2013, 01:47 PM
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Some of my favorite times with my Olds has been pulling the engine and re-installing after doing the necessary things. And that means sticking to your plan and don't let the MAW's get you.
The best though is the first start After everything has carefully been looked over...and she starts right up . Good stuff, and good luck with your goals.
The best though is the first start
After everything has carefully been looked over...and she starts right up . Good stuff, and good luck with your goals.
October 15th, 2013, 02:33 PM
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OK, I'm in CT as well.
My observations are;
1. We are 2 weeks from November in the Northeast.
2. The nose of your beauty is at the garage door, means your a$$ will be in the breeze, when puttin' her back in.
3. I hope you're faster than I am.
All kidding aside, Best of luck with the project.
I'm having a 455 built with much help by Steve Minore.
We have a sheltered place picked out to do the 350 to 455 transplant, hopefully before thanksgiving. Can't wait to melt my old skinny radials.
My observations are;
1. We are 2 weeks from November in the Northeast.
2. The nose of your beauty is at the garage door, means your a$$ will be in the breeze, when puttin' her back in.
3. I hope you're faster than I am.
All kidding aside, Best of luck with the project.
I'm having a 455 built with much help by Steve Minore.
We have a sheltered place picked out to do the 350 to 455 transplant, hopefully before thanksgiving. Can't wait to melt my old skinny radials.
October 15th, 2013, 02:37 PM
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OK, I'm in CT as well.
My observations are;
1. We are 2 weeks from November in the Northeast.
2. The nose of your beauty is at the garage door, means your a$$ will be in the breeze, when puttin' her back in.
3. I hope you're faster than I am.
All kidding aside, Best of luck with the project.
I'm having a 455 built with much help by Steve Minore.
We have a sheltered place picked out to do the 350 to 455 transplant, hopefully before thanksgiving. Can't wait to melt my old skinny radials.
My observations are;
1. We are 2 weeks from November in the Northeast.
2. The nose of your beauty is at the garage door, means your a$$ will be in the breeze, when puttin' her back in.
3. I hope you're faster than I am.
All kidding aside, Best of luck with the project.
I'm having a 455 built with much help by Steve Minore.
We have a sheltered place picked out to do the 350 to 455 transplant, hopefully before thanksgiving. Can't wait to melt my old skinny radials.
October 15th, 2013, 02:40 PM
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October 15th, 2013, 02:50 PM
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i didnt want to turn fixing up my old stand into a project of its own and as the professur said im trading crappy wheels for more crappy wheels, Joe did your move around ok with an engine on it....i had a hard time steering after i put it together
October 15th, 2013, 02:53 PM
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Yeah it only wants to roll straight but you can drag it sideways then rollsome more...
October 15th, 2013, 03:32 PM
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October 15th, 2013, 04:19 PM
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October 15th, 2013, 04:53 PM
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Hey Pogo, don't blame this on me! 
Looks like you have the same stand as me, it seems strong enough. My floor isn't perfectly flat and I found a rear wheel about an 1/8th inch from the floor. A wooden shim made it more solid. But yeah, doesn't steer very well.
I'd challenge you to a race but I think you'd win.
Looks like you have the same stand as me, it seems strong enough. My floor isn't perfectly flat and I found a rear wheel about an 1/8th inch from the floor. A wooden shim made it more solid. But yeah, doesn't steer very well.
I'd challenge you to a race but I think you'd win.
October 16th, 2013, 03:36 PM
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didnt get much done today, since i'm alone its taking a while i know this hood removal isnt pretty but it worked and took my quit a while to snake it thru the garage to the back porch....forgot how heavy these things are, also went out looking for some hardware i dont seem to have for the stand. tomorrow i should get to the converter/bellhouse/starter,if i have no problems.... i remember the starter was a pain to put in with the headers, i think it needs to be removed to clear them
October 17th, 2013, 07:04 AM
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I used the roof truss rope and 4 pulleys. Made a one man job out of it and could lean and tilt it any direction I wanted. Was nice to just pull it all the way up and out of the way till I was done to. I about had a heart attack though when I decided to open the garage door to push the car back, the door came about 3" from bumping the Hood
October 18th, 2013, 02:05 PM
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October 18th, 2013, 02:17 PM
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I will steve, thanks.... i'm working today and doubles sat and sun so i'm on hold till moday...everything is unbolted and ready to pull i'm trying to find a few studs i had to attach the engine plate to the intake
October 23rd, 2013, 01:01 PM
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i'm back on track again i got caught up in the daily work etc rat race for few days and no sense trying win the race because as rev. sloan coffin used to say '' if you manage to win the rat race, your still a rat... now i'm back to the pleasure of my car...engine was the usual hassle coming out had to remove the oil filter housing it was getting caught up on the headers, had to make about 300 three point turns with the hoist to get thru the lumpy concrete to the other garage bay... engine on the stand which was also a hassle because the legs of the hoist and this stand ran into each other. preliminary inspection looks good, timing chain nice...no leaks at seals(thought i had a front seal leak), anyway some usual pics...
October 23rd, 2013, 01:09 PM
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a few more pics....i want to get the intake and cam out next.... i have the 7qt moroso pan(still have original pan and may go back to it) on there and some mondello parts ( studs restrictors oil windage...cant remember what else) i put in 20 plus years ago when i spun the #7 bearing
October 23rd, 2013, 01:24 PM
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a few more pics....i want to get the intake and cam out next.... i have the 7qt moroso pan(still have original pan and may go back to it) on there and some mondello parts ( studs restrictors oil windage...cant remember what else) i put in 20 plus years ago when i spun the #7 bearing
Pics look great, Awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 11th, 2013, 12:49 PM
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i'm back at the engine and am somewhat disappointed when removing pistons i have some scored and uneven worn rod bearings as i see it, again this engine has about 10k on a rebuild from 1990 when #7 rod bearing spun... after the rebuild the car sat sometimes a long while before starting but i always removed plugs hand turned the engine etc to ease start up but i have to admit some start ups were a little hard and took a bit to get running but i'm not sure if that is the cause of some of this bearing wear...below are some pics of the worst bearing (cyl # 2) these are childs & albert top quality bearings ...(the crank is machined 20/20 not crossdrilled, mondello oil restrictors and always great oil pressure) the clearance on #2 with plastigage was pretty good(.002) but the bearing in the piston side of the rod is worn down to the copper or indium or whatever... at this stage i want to start with measuring the rod journals and gauging the rod end for out of round (again i didnt like how lose the bearing was in the rod and the bearing tang worn almost like it was close to spinning)....here some pics?
