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Old February 10th, 2010, 09:08 AM
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Comparing Fusick Gold vs VHT Gold engine paint

Did some searching here and on ROP, only came across one picture of a VHT Gold painted engine... Did find a few pics of the Fusick Gold.

Does anyone here have their engine painted with the VHT Gold Engine paint and have a pic or two they could share?

I like the color of the Fusick paint, but from reading posts, but it soudns like it is not the most durable, and is not resistant to oil, gas, etc etc- whereas the VHT engine paint is super durable and resistant to just about everything.

What are your thoughts on the two products and their Gold color vs original gold...

Also, Any thoughts or pics of the Duplicolor Gold engine paint? I found it mentioned a few times, but no pics.

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Old February 10th, 2010, 09:21 AM
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I don't have any experience with Fusick's paint, but I used Tamraz's Metallic Blue for my 1972 455 block and have been very happy with it. I have had it on my engine over a year and it still looks great. As for the color match, unless I had it up next to an original block, I wouldn't know the difference. I would say go with something more durable, that will stand up to the oil, gas, and chemicals. Even if it doesn't look as nice as the less durable Fusick, it is better than having to paint it constantly. Just a thought.
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I recently rebuilt the quad on my low miles '73 Cutlass Supreme. Alot of the vac hoses were dry rotted and the paint on the intake could have used refreshing. I pulled the intake and had it dunked and steamed. I used the VHT primer and paint. It came out looking very good once I got it all back together. But once I fired it up it didn't take very long for the paint to bubble up and burn off the heat cross over on the intake. And this is what was unacceptable to me when I decided to pull the intake in the first place. The factory original paint on the heat cross over was all but gone. Am I happy with the VHT product? Yes. It stuck good, it looks good, it gave me a factory finish. Next time I may consider POR 15's product if they have it in Olds Gold. I used it on an AMC restoration 5 years ago that I helped a friend out with and his engine still looks good today. FWIW
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Be careful with pics. They can be deceiving. Camera, lighting, monitor, etc. can all alter true colors. If at all possible, check out in person. Engine colors seem to be especially difficult to convey.
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Thanks guys... Really I'm looking for pics identiying the brand/colors.

I have an aluminum intake that won't get painted, so i'm not worried about the crossover. More concerned with resistance to oil, brake fluid, gas, staining/peeling from the above etc etc.
I have had great luck with VHT engine paint in the past, but it was always BLACK paint- so thats why i'm interested in seeing the pics to see the how the colors compare.

It doesn't have to be exactly original for me, but I'd like to know what i'm going to be looking at before I lay out $40+ in paint.

The fusick stuff looks great in the pics i've seen, but at $15 a can x 3 cans + shipping, thats a lot of money if its going to have questionable longevity (staining, peeling, etc etc) compared to the $6 can VHT which i know will stand up.

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Only thing I've heard about the DupliColor gold is it's too "GOLD" I guess meaning too bright and it's thin.
I have duplicolor on my wagon and the paint is pretty resistant after a few heat cycles. Just make sure you lay it on a CLEAN surface.
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Engine Enamel

I went with the Eastwood for my 72 Cutlass 350. The match was dead on but still burnt off the heads after a few shows. My block has never been repainted, just cleaned up but I received a deduction for incorrect engine color at the Olds Nationals last year. I guess the judges didn't remember what the original color looked like!
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I used plasti-kote gold on my 69 and it had too much metallic in it. I bought a can from brothers and they stripped the label off so I am not sure what brand they gave me. I was going to spray some on cardboard to see what it looked like.
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Originally Posted by BOOWAH
I went with the Eastwood for my 72 Cutlass 350. The match was dead on but still burnt off the heads after a few shows. My block has never been repainted, just cleaned up but I received a deduction for incorrect engine color at the Olds Nationals last year. I guess the judges didn't remember what the original color looked like!

Bluevista will know about the paint! He is smart about these things!!

I think that engine is beautiful!!! How could they deduct??? The booster is beautiful too! Bluevista is going to make my engine look beautiful like his, and yours, and Allan R's...... Beautiful Olds Gold... (NO Chebby orange!!)
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Originally Posted by OLD SKL 69
I used plasti-kote gold on my 69 and it had too much metallic in it. I bought a can from brothers and they stripped the label off so I am not sure what brand they gave me. I was going to spray some on cardboard to see what it looked like.
Do you have a photo of the plasti-kote gold with the "too much metallic" in it?
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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:33 PM
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Hirsch Olds Gold....

I used this from Hirsch....also used it on my '65 Vista engine....a few thousand miles highway driving and still looks excellent. Like someone else said, clean surface is key, I also used a heat resistant primer before color....
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Very nice!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by cutlassgal
Very nice!!!!!!!
Thank you! I will be pulling it out in the spring for a more thorough cleaning and paint job!
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You're welcome! I can't wait to post pics of mine when it is beautiful!! You guys will get tired of looking at it! LOL!
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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:49 PM
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This is Fusick's red I like it. But I'm a big fan of Fusick's in general
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Old February 10th, 2010, 12:58 PM
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That is beautiful, Jamesbo!!!!!
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Old February 10th, 2010, 01:08 PM
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Been doing some reading online thismorning- looks like VHT has a new engine paint line-
Metallic Engine Enamels... with metal flake in them. Limited colors- but they have a "burnt copper" metallic for the BB guys and a "gold" metallic one. About $12 a can instead of $6 like the regular engine paint- but might be worth a shot at being closer than the standard stuff.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 01:41 PM
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Here is another sample of Hirsch Olds 350 Gold.
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Originally Posted by ent72olds
I used this from Hirsch....also used it on my '65 Vista engine....a few thousand miles highway driving and still looks excellent. Like someone else said, clean surface is key, I also used a heat resistant primer before color....

Looks great Erik!
I have planned on using the Hirsch paint myself if I ever get to the engine painting stage.

What brand of high temp primer was used?
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Looks great Erik!
I have planned on using the Hirsch paint myself if I ever get to the engine painting stage.

What brand of high temp primer was used?
If I can remember correctly, it was plasticote!
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i have not had any oil leak on my engine but it is holding up great. i used the Fusick gold. it is starting to burn off at the bottom of the head now. it has around 10,000 miles on it and i am happy with it. i am not sure how close to the correct color it is but i think it is close.
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Ben,

Unfortunately I did not take any pictures of the motor before I sold it. But like I said, it had too much metallic in my opinion to look right. It also burned off by the heat passages on the intake.
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Old February 10th, 2010, 07:51 PM
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Found a member heres album with pics of his engine painted with the Duplicolor Universal Gold

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...5&pictureid=57
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another duplicolor universal gold pic
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Old February 10th, 2010, 07:59 PM
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Fusick Gold:
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not a great pic, but VHT Universal Gold

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Old February 10th, 2010, 08:03 PM
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I hate doing my own legwork, but didn't see to many pics being posted so this is what i found searching. I'd still like to see more PHOTOS of what people have, as its hard to compare based on light conditions, etc etc... Plus it would probably be useful in the future for others to be able to see what the differences are that people are talking about...

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the other thing to know is that it shouldn't take 3 cans, I don't remember for ure but I swear I only used 1 can for my engine and when I bought the "original" grey for the SSIIs the company suggested a can for each wheel so I bought 4. I stripped the wheels and found a comparable powder coat color - you would be amazed at how many colors are available - powder coated them first and only used one can of paint to go over all 5 rims.
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Rambow i have a 69 olds cleaned it up nice painted motor with por gold mixed gold to match i painted motor over 2plus years and i drive car alot in summer months just last summer we did a cruise over 21 miles on a hot summer day down the cape having trouble putting pick up on hear but ill put some in my profile folder to see if you like
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Originally Posted by paul879
Rambow i have a 69 olds cleaned it up nice painted motor with por gold mixed gold to match i painted motor over 2plus years and i drive car alot in summer months just last summer we did a cruise over 21 miles on a hot summer day down the cape having trouble putting pick up on hear but ill put some in my profile folder to see if you like
Thanks! Will be great to see them- post a link to the album when you have em up there.

Was looking through richards 66 verts build thread...

another pic of Fusick Gold
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Paul, Is this the Pic of the POR15 Gold?
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yes this is one i just painted it 2 weeks ago going in my 72 but i have another pic in my 69 that is holding up pretty goo just getting normal bun marks at exhaust
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https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ureid=2027just learning a little on how to post pics
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Ben,
Liking the new avatar!
Great job on the homework you're doing by the way. I know that all the variables of lighting, etc. etc. etc. have a lot to do with what we're seeing on our computers but I think the Hirsch paint has a more favorable tone. Not too bright. Just my 2 cents.
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You guys make me laugh.

The factory paint jobs on engines, cars, and parts were, on a good day, mediocre.

When I worked at the BOP plant in Framingham, Mass. in 1972, the paint jobs on everything were done quickly and cheaply.

The amount of care you would give in painting an engine with spray cans is 100% better than the "slap in on and get it out" paint jobs at the factory?

Want your car to look like an original? Add in drips, drops, and poor coverage....then it will be like GM did it.......
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The Fusick gold is too deep..Looks halfway to bronze.
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Old February 18th, 2010, 05:02 PM
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I guess the judges will flip when I paint my engine the correct color ...

black ...
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here's a nice original eng in a 71 from the newby section...

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light...
dark ...

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The por 15 looks like a winner ...
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