I am looking at a 69 442 that appears to have factory red cloth seats. The current owner doesnt have much info on the car and since I have never seen this before I was wondering if cloth was an option in 69 or whether these are custom.

Thanks
Sean

 

The factory red interior on a 69 442 would have been vinyl, not cloth. That isn't original.

 

Greg Godon is currently restoring a 1969 442 that was built with cloth interior.

Talk to Greg.

 

Is it red, per the O.P.'s question?

 

 

Here are a couple of images. Looks pretty "factory" to me.

 

No it is not red but it is cloth though. Perhaps the original posters interest extends beyond the color red since he specifically asked if cloth was an option in 1969.

 

Not even close. See the dealer brochure I posted above. The red buckets would have been vinyl. A nice recover, but not factory.

 

I think you are reading far too much into an imprecisely-worded post title, as the O.P. is pretty clearly interested in knowing if the red cloth buckets in a car he was looking at were factory, which they are not.

 

If it was cloth then it would be the nylon style not velour.
Thats a no vote for being original.

 

I beleive the nylon/cloth option was only available on bench seat cars. One of my 70 W30s was a bench seat and had the nylon/cloth option.

Greg

 

I have a 1969 Cutlass Supreme with original bucket seats covered in the original Cloth and vinyl fabric. It's pretty cool. Cloth on the seat bottom and back where the driver and passenger come in contact with the seats and vinyl around the sides and on the head rest. I also have the 1969 Oldsmobile dealer album depicting the interior options with swaths fro examples for all the 1969 Oldsmobile models.

But with all of that said, the interior in the OP car is not original. Still nice though, but not original.

 

Exactly! The OP didn't specify seat type, but I'm pretty sure that red was only offered in bucket seats in the 442 in 1969, in which case cloth was NOT an option for the red interior. The OP's later photo seals it.

By the way, I've always wanted that Platinum car with red interior shown in the 1969 dealer brochure I posted above.

 

But not a 442 and I'm guessing not red, correct? The Supreme upholstery was different from the 442/Cutlass S upholstery in 1969.

 

Joe I know you are trying to be helpful but it is OK to allow me and other posters to add to conversations in threads. You don't need to tell me how to interpret the original posters postings.... I can do that for myself. No need for you to constantly insist that only your interpretation is correct. I agree that there
was no red cloth bucket seats in 1969 Olds 442s but there were cloth interiors in 1969 442s and if I want to add that to this thread I don't need your approval to post it.

 

What I'm trying to avoid is when a specific question is asked and answers not directly related but incomplete are provided. The way your original response was worded, a neophyte could have interpreted it as meaning that his red cloth seats WERE a factory option. Were there cloth seats offered? Of course, but unless someone wants to reproduce the interior trim chart for 1969, simply answering the OP's question with a response that says "cloth was available" is a little inaccurate, or at least, open to misinterpretation.

The one absolute truth I've learned over the years is that no matter what you write in a post, someone will interpret it in the worst possible way. This is why there are people who think that any Lansing-built car is a W-car.

Public service message over. I'm done with this topic.

 

I can't tell you how many times I thumbed through that 69 Olds sales brochure and drooled over those 442's! My cousins husband bought that same 69 platinum 442 with red interior with the four speed brand new. I had the pleasure of driving it around the block. What a car What a time!

 

My '68 Cutlass Supreme 4-door had Willow Gold bench seats with the cloth, and it was definitely the nylon stuff.

 

Guys

Thanks for all the feedback. I do think that a previous owner recovered in Velour. If i do buy the car i would be putting the original style vinyl back.

Sean

 

FWIW, I inferred red cloth too.

 

Ditto

I had a '69 W-31 with a cloth interior, but, not red and not bucket seats.

 

I believe this tells us that Gold and Blue cloth was available in 442 - bench seat only.

 

That Cadillac that Don Draper (Mad Men) is driving is a Silver/Platinum hardtop with a Red interior - fantastic looking.

 

The only way to get a Red interior in a 442 was bucket seats and they were vinyl. On the other hand if you wanted a Green interior it was bench seat only

 

My '69 Cutlass S convertible has (had) a black cloth interior. The cloth portion has faded out over the years but it looks factory to me.

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I wouldn't know for sure, but that fabric doesn't scream "1969" to me.

 

It's not. Neither that fabric nor that pattern were factory available in 1969.

 

The cloth back then was not the fuzzy velour kind, like said above, and like in above pictures. It was similar material to the cloth headliners, almost like thin seatbelt material.