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Old Aug 10, 2015 | 05:53 PM
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Cam bearing recommendation.

Pulled the cam from my 70 455 and didn't like the look of the bearings.
Wondering what you guys would recommend. Also looking for a quality tool for the R&R of them.
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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wow

my acuity says
this is a trap

cam bearings in a healthy engine
are best left in stalled

i am not a fan of expandable drivers
and
i am not the expert
Old Aug 10, 2015 | 06:25 PM
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Well, the cam came out clean, as were the bearings, but had some like pitting on top
of them. I haven't pulled them yet, but wanted new ones for the new cam and lifters. The last pic is of the engine upside down, if you look close you can see how nasty they look.
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Old Aug 11, 2015 | 01:12 PM
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Bump. Anyone have a TRW part number? Success with Clevite?
A recommendation for a tool? Can I just take some emory to the bearings? Kidding, I won't do that.
Old Aug 12, 2015 | 03:59 AM
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I use only Dura Bond cam bearings

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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 04:12 AM
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Thanks for the response Greg, I had seen different manufacturers using multiple oiling holes for some reason. The stock units only have the one. Any reason for the multiples that you know of? And are the Dura Bonds configured this way or are they the single holes?
Old Aug 12, 2015 | 06:01 AM
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DuraBond Cam Bearings

HeyAdam:
I'm currently researching this subject too. What I've learned is the back grooved DuraBond O-6B bearings should be installed with the oil hole in the 3 o'clock position as viewed from the front of the motor and with the block right-side up. The O-6B bearings have a single oil hole, if you install the oiling hole at 6 o'clock there is a chance oil supply can be restricted by excessive cam loading (high valve spring pressures, timing chain load, etc.). Rotating the oil hole to 3 o'clock allows for a stronger oil wedge between the cam journal and the bearing. You cannot do this with a standard bearing, there must be an annular groove in the back of the bearing to allow the oil to flow behind the bearing up to the 3 o'clock hole. Here's a helpful diagram.

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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 06:08 AM
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My company has the only full circle cam bearing set other than Durabond on the market. We use a premium Babbitt alloy on our stock replacement sets, keep consistant, run out free leading edge chamfers for ease of installation and clean all excess Babbitt tailings out of the oil holes. PM me if you want a set.
Old Aug 12, 2015 | 10:49 AM
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Thanks boys, you don't know how much. Much needed to know info. All the engines I ever built, came back from the machine shop as short blocks, I then took it from there. Thank you. Joe, pm sent. As far as the tool goes for R&R, sumbich, I think I need to rent one.
Old Aug 12, 2015 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by cdrod
heyadam:
I'm currently researching this subject too. What i've learned is the back grooved durabond o-6b bearings should be installed with the oil hole in the 3 o'clock position as viewed from the front of the motor and with the block right-side up. The o-6b bearings have a single oil hole, if you install the oiling hole at 6 o'clock there is a chance oil supply can be restricted by excessive cam loading (high valve spring pressures, timing chain load, etc.). Rotating the oil hole to 3 o'clock allows for a stronger oil wedge between the cam journal and the bearing. You cannot do this with a standard bearing, there must be an annular groove in the back of the bearing to allow the oil to flow behind the bearing up to the 3 o'clock hole. Here's a helpful diagram.



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Old Aug 12, 2015 | 11:56 AM
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Thanks for the re-affirmation Mark. Did you get my pm?
Old Aug 14, 2015 | 03:55 PM
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Shoutout to Joe (Costpenn). Got the bearings today, thank you.
I couldn't even pay the man, sent to me free of charge, what a guy.
Old Mar 30, 2022 | 09:37 AM
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Adam:
Yeah, Joe's a good guy! He did the same thing for me, free of charge. What ya got planned that you need new cam bearings?

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Old Mar 30, 2022 | 09:53 AM
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Hi Rodney. They were for the 70 442's engine. I have 2 on the shop floor ready to go. One is a 68 455 with a manual crank and an M-20 just in case.
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