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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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Anybody Watch Auction Kings?

So I was watching the new-ish show Auction Kings the other night. (Its just like Pawn Stars only it follows an auction house instead of a pawn shop. And the cast is thinner, lol.)

A lady was consigning her "all original" 1969 442 Convertible - They entitled the 442 section "The Anti-Prius" - LOL.

Anyways I got really confused with some of the info they were giving. Help me out here:

1. They say the engine was a 350... huh?
I was thinking a 442 would have originally came with a Big Block (like either a 400/425/455 - I'm shaky on my 69 specs.)

2. The "car expert" they called in was claiming that the second "4" in 442 is supposed to represent a four speed manual "performance" transmission and that even though it had an automatic which was a more expensive option it was slightly less desirable without the "four speed" yada-yada...

I know that "4-on-the-floor" is what showed up in Olds' marketing for the definition of 442. However my understanding was that at the time the automatics were actually considered a "4 speed" because they counted reverse as a gear. Thus the manuals would actually be "5 speeds" for the same reason.

Anybody care to chime in?
Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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I did I like pawns star better so far but it was good. I like the history lesson on pawn stars
. Go figure history is cool. Yes a 400 would have been in a 442 and olds didnt want to brag so they just came up with their own perfect 10 .

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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:22 PM
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I wish someone would walk up to me and ask me to by there Gibson Les Paul. I don't have cable, but I seen that part of one show.
I look at the "experts" on the shows like the judges at a car show, or a coin dealer.
Old Nov 12, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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I'll have to check that out
Old Nov 12, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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that 442 was just on ebay ,maybe still is , the guy wants 29900 for it!
Old Nov 12, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Coltonis
I know that "4-on-the-floor" is what showed up in Olds' marketing for the definition of 442. However my understanding was that at the time the automatics were actually considered a "4 speed" because they counted reverse as a gear. Thus the manuals would actually be "5 speeds" for the same reason.

Anybody care to chime in?
What "442" stood for changed over the years. Originally, for the first ones in 1964, it was 4-speed manual transmission, 4-barrel carb, dual exhaust. But, in later years, when, for instance, a 442 could be had with an automatic transmission, one of the 4's came to mean "400" cubic-inch engine. Later, I think, Olds stopped trying to assign each of the numbers to a feature. I don't think one of the 4's ever referred to anything about an automatic transmission.
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