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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 04:42 PM
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66 L69 versus W30 400 engine

Trying to get better educated here. I have done several searches on the difference between these two motors..Here is what I think I know, please fill on the blanks or correct any wrong info.
-both 400 cubes, same blocks
-same cylinder heads
-same tripower unit
- W30 was balanced and blueprinted factory, L69
was not.
So did they have the same pistons, rods, crankshaft, camshaft etc?
And of course W30 was fresh outside air.
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Old Mar 27, 2020 | 05:05 PM
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You should consider 3 engines. The E block 400 with quadrajet that was in the 442 was one thing.

The L69, I believe, was the standard 442 engine with the three two barrels and a special intake manifold.

The W-30 was the L-69 tri carb, plus a hotter cam, factory blueprintting, a specific rear end 4.11 limited slip, I think, heavy radiator, better valve springs,
and they may have picked specific B heads, along with the OAI system.

I think they had the same crank, rods, and pistons. I am sure someone will be along to correct my inevitable errors.

Old Mar 27, 2020 | 07:52 PM
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The 66 W-30 used different pistons but had the same compression ratio. 67 probably were blueprinted the same way. I may have this wrong but the concept was,they used a different shaped piston. I think it was a D piston in an A bore. I think this was done to minimize piston to wall contact for less drag. Run To Rund can explain this no doubt. The L-69 engines were not blueprinted.
Old Mar 28, 2020 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
You should consider 3 engines.
Yes.

And the cams used in the non W30 engines varied only according to the transmission used.

Non W30 automatic transmission 400s used the mildest cam (52° overlap, 278/282 duration, 0.430/0.432 lift).

Non W30 manual transmission 400s used a more aggressive cam (58° overlap, 286/286 duration, 0.472/0.472 lift).

W30s used the hottest cam that, ground with a different advance, went on to power the 1970 W31 and some 1976 marine 455s. It had 82° overlap, 308/308 duration, and 0.474/0.474 lift.
Old Mar 28, 2020 | 03:48 PM
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Well, for starters the L-79 was a Chevy.
Old Mar 28, 2020 | 04:04 PM
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Thank you
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Andylappin
Thank you
I see you corrected OP. Well done. It might not seem like a big deal but it certainly makes a difference when ordering parts.
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 10:54 AM
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Another question, I am more pontiac educated and trying to learn olds as I am looking to buy a 442 to replace a car I once had..in the pontiac world we call 3x2 carbs a tripower unit, whats the correct term for the Oldsmobile 3x2? Tripower or just 3x2? Appreciate the help
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 11:25 AM
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Tri-Carb (although IMO, the term Tri-Power does conjure up a stronger message)
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 11:30 AM
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Just don't call it a Six-Pak!
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by VC455
W30s used the hottest cam that, ground with a different advance, went on to power the 1970 W31 and some 1976 marine 455s. It had 82° overlap, 308/308 duration, and 0.474/0.474 lift.
Actually, the 308/308 cam was used in the 66-67 W-30 cars and in the 68-70 W-31s.
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 12:54 PM
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Joe, whats the story on the pistons?
Old Mar 29, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Actually, the 308/308 cam was used in the 66-67 W-30 cars and in the 68-70 W-31s.
True. I apologize for any confusion. I looked through the cam part number lists too quickly. The altered-advance 308 cam was also used in 1968 H/O models without air conditioning.
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