cherokeepeople

anybody have any idea of production figures on a 65 442 with 3 on the tree.ran across one its an f85 bench seat.have seen pics and hope to get a look at it in the next few days.

stan 65 cutlass

very very scarce, go get it

Oldsmaniac

If legit I think a lot of us would want to know what 3 speed trans is in there.

stan 65 cutlass

should be ford unit if original

droldsmorland

If you can document it its one of 109, 3427s made for 65. Of course that number doesnt break down further to seperate 3 on the floor or on the tree.

rocketraider

Dearborn trans didn't come out till mid-year. Look at build date on the data plate. If it's 12D or earlier chances are car is legit.

There was a thread on these cars couple weeks back.

66-3X2 442

You got that backwards didn't you? Did you mean 12D and later?

joe_padavano

No, earlier. The Saginaw three speed with column shift was the normal three-on-the-tree trans. The Dearborn HD three speed used the Hurst floor shifter.

66-3X2 442

I know the 3 on the tree was available on a 66 442 with the Dearborn & I'm thinking it was also available in 65. It was discontinued either during the 66 model year or @ the end of the 66 model year. Maybe Jasen will clear this up.

rocketraider

Mike, wouldn't be the first time I got something backwards, but yes, I meant earlier based on the Dearborn 3-speed becoming available mid-year. As Joe P noted up till then the column-shifted Saginaw 3-speed was standard equipment.

That thread Diego started a few days ago on 1965 3-speed cars brought up a piece of literature I'd never paid that close attention to. I had thought all 65 3-speed cars were floor shift whether they had Saginaw or top-loader.

cherokeepeople

well sadly i got ahold of the guy and it's an auto on the tree.

stan 65 cutlass

damn, still 3 on the tree technicaly, search goes on

oldsmobiledave

How so Stan? 1965 automatic was a 2 speed.

stan 65 cutlass

my mistake dave, of course its only two speeds. just thought on the fly 3 speed auto on the column, i stand corrected

DewChugr

lol, that reminds me of learning to drive a manual. It was one of my dads old work vans with a column shift manual. That was an interesting experience.

Olds24

I pulled a Dearborn 3 speed out of a 67 442 figured it was factory? Still have it tucked away, prob could dig it out and check dates?

Oldsmaniac

Yes it was a factory option in 67 but floor shifted only...

Olds24

Yes it was floor shift, What is current going rate of one of these? I will prob never use it.

Oldsmaniac

I bought one on ebay for 35 bucks, really not much demand for them. Had a hard time finding a yoke, dont know if they are GM special or a standard ford part. A lot of people swap em with a 4speed.

Diego

Was fooled for a moment too!