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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 10:11 AM
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1970 W30 on BAT

Solid 1970 4 speed 442 W30 , full documentation on bring a trailer. Sitting at 65k with 6 days to go. Pop, broadcast card etc. Not a fan of yellow but very nice car.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 10:23 AM
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I like the white with the yellow.

This 1970 Oldsmobile 442 hardtop is powered by a numbers-matching 455ci V8 paired with a four-speed manual transmission, and it has been refinished in its factory color of Sebring yellow with white stripes over an ivory-colored interior. The car was factory-equipped with the W-30 package, which included a scooped fiberglass hood, sport mirrors, and contrasting stripes. The car was first sold by Biddulph Oldsmobile in Glendale, Arizona, and spent time in Arizona, Tennessee, and Colorado before the selling dealer acquired it in 2019, reportedly from the third owner; the car was listed on BaT in April 2020 by the same seller. Equipment includes Strato-Bucket front seats, a Hurst shifter, and an AM radio. Detailing work was performed in May 2019 along with treatment of rubber and vinyl components, and the oil was changed in early 2021. This W-30 442 is now offered with manufacturer’s literature, a Protect-O-Plate, service records since the 1970s, and a clean Arizona title.







Old Sep 1, 2021 | 11:04 AM
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Is that a spilt seam on the passenger seat bottom? I would think for 65 large the car would be mint.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 11:41 AM
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...e-442-w-30-10/
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 03:40 PM
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85k now. These prices blow me away more and more.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 03:43 PM
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Thats looks like a real deal, nice, original w30

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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 03:49 PM
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I get it. Beautiful car. I love it. Love the colors. Love the authenticity. The paperwork will push it up too. One of my favorite W-30 cars that I have seen.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
I like the white with the yellow.

This 1970 Oldsmobile 442 hardtop is powered by a numbers-matching 455ci V8 paired with a four-speed manual transmission, and it has been refinished in its factory color of Sebring yellow with white stripes over an ivory-colored interior. The car was factory-equipped with the W-30 package, which included a scooped fiberglass hood, sport mirrors, and contrasting stripes. The car was first sold by Biddulph Oldsmobile in Glendale, Arizona, and spent time in Arizona, Tennessee, and Colorado before the selling dealer acquired it in 2019, reportedly from the third owner; the car was listed on BaT in April 2020 by the same seller. Equipment includes Strato-Bucket front seats, a Hurst shifter, and an AM radio. Detailing work was performed in May 2019 along with treatment of rubber and vinyl components, and the oil was changed in early 2021. This W-30 442 is now offered with manufacturer’s literature, a Protect-O-Plate, service records since the 1970s, and a clean Arizona title.






You have a duty to quote the language that you copied from the sellers advertisement and copied and pasted on our site.
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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 72455
Is that a spilt seam on the passenger seat bottom? I would think for 65 large the car would be mint.
No mint 70 w30 4 speed cars with full docs for 65k..not even close
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by twilightblue28A
You have a duty to quote the language that you copied from the sellers advertisement and copied and pasted on our site.
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"This 1970 Oldsmobile......and a clean Arizona title"
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WTH does that mean? What did I post wrong? I have a duty ??

Old Sep 1, 2021 | 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Andylappin
No mint 70 w30 4 speed cars with full docs for 65k..not even close
I agree. This car is already at 85k.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 06:32 PM
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PS: I love when people keep the dealer emblems.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 06:39 PM
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That is as fine of a documented 70-442 W30 w/4 speed that I can recall seeing. 3 broadcast cards, POP card, etc, geez. Also, on slide #52, what is that yellow tag that reads Oldsmobile to Chevrolet? I have not seen that before. From a real deal car perspective, that car will likely crack $100k, easy. Compare that ride to the loads of undocumented W30's that have sold for much more, it is a choice car. For me, I would tire of the yellow color, but that's my taste.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
PS: I love when people keep the dealer emblems.
I like them on other people's cars, not mine. But, they are neat.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by twilightblue28A
You have a duty to quote the language that you copied from the sellers advertisement and copied and pasted on our site.
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Say what, hope your okay!
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
WTH does that mean? What did I post wrong? I have a duty ??
he is commenting that you should've put the BAT text in a "QUOTE"
"BAT"
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 07:40 PM
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Whatever. Makes zero sense to bring that up. People can't even spell a word these days. Oh sorry CES a word.



Thank You Classic Muscle 442. He just has some odd beef with me.

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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by capstoneclub
That is as fine example of a documented 70-442 W30 w/4 speed that I can recall seeing. From a real deal car perspective, that car will likely crack $100k, easy. Compare that ride to the loads of undocumented W30's that have sold for much more, it is a choice car.
Amen to all of that. I Love the car.
I bet it will crack 100k too. Full of documentation. Not many W-30's like this car. I so have a thing for white interior cars too. Personally I really like seeing a Sebring Yellow car with white stripes and interior. When I was a kid there was a fairly beat 70 W-30 Sebring Yellow / Black stripe and interior car that ran around Englewood Colorado. Old lady owned it. This car would be waayyy up there on my list.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 07:59 PM
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Nice and well documented W30 4 speed. Curious why less than a year and a half ago it was listed for sale on BAT by the same seller, and ‘only’ bid to 55K. Has the market changed that much, or has the car?
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by vCode442
Nice and well documented W30 4 speed. Curious why less than a year and a half ago it was listed for sale on BAT by the same seller, and ‘only’ bid to 55K. Has the market changed that much, or has the car?
I thought the same thing. It makes it hard for me to trust non shill bidding. Big auction site/sellers have less and less trust from me.

This car sure looks to be no joke. Love it.

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Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:12 PM
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No AC in Glendale, eh? Winter driver only.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:14 PM
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To the above,
the same car was on Craigslist In upstate NY, for a bit. I saw it listed before on ebay also. Not sure if the same.
there's not alot like that car, so who knows.

I'm always a critic of ...the shiny new red inerfenders, on an original.
my w30 fenders I've done every trick...they look old.
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:14 PM
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No AC in Glendale, eh? Winter driver only.
No AC available on a four speed stick W-30. Right?
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 08:17 PM
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To the above,
the same car was on Craigslist In upstate NY, for a bit. I saw it listed before on ebay also. Not sure if the same.
there's not alot like that car, so who knows.

I'm always a critic of ...the shiny new red inerfenders, on an original.
my w30 fenders I've done every trick...they look old.
That has a boat load of documentation. Hard to call that car out. W-30 purists. Do you see questions?
Old Sep 1, 2021 | 09:21 PM
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This car is the real deal. The previous owner only buys very original, well documented cars. I have ridden in this car and it rides nice, and pulls like a W-30 should.
Old Sep 2, 2021 | 06:20 AM
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To the above,
the same car was on Craigslist In upstate NY, for a bit. I saw it listed before on ebay also. Not sure if the same.
there's not alot like that car, so who knows.
Agreed--If my memory is correct, this is not the car's first appearance on BAT, nor at the auction houses, likely money being the issue. Nothing is reasonably priced nowadays [ example-used Toyota Tacos selling today for more than their MSRP when new ]; however, to expect this car to sell for less than 100 bones is not reality, when plain Jane 442s are pushing that number today. Perhaps this time around is the charm for the automobile and seller. I sure hope that is the case.
Old Sep 2, 2021 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
Amen to all of that. I Love the car.
I bet it will crack 100k too. Full of documentation. Not many W-30's like this car. I so have a thing for white interior cars too. Personally I really like seeing a Sebring Yellow car with white stripes and interior. When I was a kid there was a fairly beat 70 W-30 Sebring Yellow / Black stripe and interior car that ran around Englewood Colorado. Old lady owned it. This car would be waayyy up there on my list.
I worked in Englewood Co, like 1983,84, I recall seeing that car at a king soopers parking lot..wow..small world.
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Originally Posted by Andylappin
I worked in Englewood Co, like 1983,84, I recall seeing that car at a king soopers parking lot..wow..small world.
That's crazy Andy. Like you said crazy small world. I worked at the Sound On Wheels car stereo store just north of Belleview. Pretty sure that Englewood car had black stripes and interior. Dented rear quarter etc.

PS: That King Soopers on Broadway is more sketchy than ever before.

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Old Sep 2, 2021 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tnswt
Agreed--If my memory is correct, this is not the car's first appearance on BAT, nor at the auction houses, likely money being the issue. Nothing is reasonably priced nowadays [ example-used Toyota Tacos selling today for more than their MSRP when new ]; however, to expect this car to sell for less than 100 bones is not reality, when plain Jane 442s are pushing that number today. Perhaps this time around is the charm for the automobile and seller. I sure hope that is the case.
You are correct. That car "sold" for 55k a year-ish ago. I don't trust auction sites anymore.
Old Sep 2, 2021 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
That's crazy Andy. Like you said crazy small world. I worked at the Sound On Wheels car stereo store just north of Belleview. Pretty sure that Englewood car had black stripes and interior. Dented rear quarter etc.

PS: That King Soopers on Broadway is more sketchy than ever before.
yea that neighborhood went to hell in a hand basket…I was a meat cutter there back then.
Old Sep 3, 2021 | 07:28 AM
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EngleHood baby. Ha ha. Honestly Denver really doesn't have true ghetto.
Old Sep 3, 2021 | 09:31 AM
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EngleHood baby. Ha ha. Honestly Denver really doesn't have true ghetto.
Youever spend anytime in 5 points? Its the hood thru and thru..
Old Sep 3, 2021 | 10:09 AM
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Compared to Detroit. North Memphis etc etc Denver has nothing even close. How long ago did you live out here?
Old Sep 3, 2021 | 10:27 AM
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Compared to Detroit. North Memphis etc etc Denver has nothing even close. How long ago did you live out here?
Left in 1989, moved to Florida
Old Sep 3, 2021 | 10:41 AM
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Kool W-Machine. The Yellow Calipers are a detraction from original finish, but no big deal and if the radiator & top plate are correct / original to the car then it should be a 3.91 gear. TO code should be stamped into the axle tube.
Old Sep 5, 2021 | 08:22 AM
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I wanted to post these two pictures of the driver doors to make comparisons between them, and also to note the different placement and size of stickers between my door (W30. Astro Blue) and the W30 currently for sale on BAT (Sebring Yellow).

Note the placement locations and different shapes between the tire pressure stickers. The VIN stickers definitely found different homes when they were applied to the doors. The Sebring Yellow W30 is an Oct 1969 build, while my car is March 1970. Note the date locations printed on the VIN stickers.

Finally, to me anyway, I don’t see the two ridges in the yellow door. I’ve made arrow notations to point out more clearly in the photograph of the blue door to indicate my observation.

My assumption is that the stickers and doors are originals to both automobiles. Just more pictures to prove things changed over time as these cars were built.




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Old Sep 5, 2021 | 09:47 AM
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The difference is early build vs later build as you surmised. Generally the two ridges / boarder for the VIN decal became available on cars built in 1970 while the no boarders were 1970 model cars built in 1969. The trunk is another body panel with differences from early to later.
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