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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 06:55 AM
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1970 fender to door alignment question

So I discovered both of the passenger side lower fender bolts were missing on my ‘70 S. Got things re-attached, now the door is hitting the fender when opened. It appears the fender is now too low, but need some guidance on how to fix it. I’m no body man!






Old Jul 28, 2023 | 09:32 AM
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You may need some shims where you replaced the missing bolts.
Old Jul 28, 2023 | 09:57 AM
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You may need some shims where you replaced the missing bolts.
Yeah the body shop that last messed with this area had some in there but it seemed like more were needed, so I added 5 or so thin fender washers on each bolt. Would shimming that area affect fender height?
Old Jul 28, 2023 | 10:00 AM
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I just readjusted my left fender again, I suggest loosening the bolts at the bottom and moving the fender out just a hair, try that first..whatever you do, go slow, one adjustment at a time..
Old Jul 28, 2023 | 02:01 PM
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Bottom of fender is too far inboard
Old Jul 28, 2023 | 02:07 PM
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Start by getting the door correctly aligned with the quarter if it is off, then adjust the fender. Replacement oem fenders have a habit of not fitting well on the passenger side.

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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dc2x4drvr
I just readjusted my left fender again, I suggest loosening the bolts at the bottom and moving the fender out just a hair, try that first..whatever you do, go slow, one adjustment at a time..


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Bottom of fender is too far inboard
I tried that. It’s actually sitting a bit too far out at the bottom as it is. I may have to go farther though.


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Start by getting the door correctly aligned with the quarter if it is off, then adjust the fender. Replacement oem fenders have a habit of not fitting well on the passenger side.

Pat
Will definitely check that. The fender has been replaced but it’s an original not a re-pop. Exactly what is the process to adjust the fender?
Old Jul 28, 2023 | 02:32 PM
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I tried that. It’s actually sitting a bit too far out at the bottom as it is. I may have to go farther though.




Will definitely check that. The fender has been replaced but it’s an original not a re-pop. Exactly what is the process to adjust the fender?
I would get the door where you want it, and then get the upper fender aligned to that, then the lower fender. It is the GM NOS fenders that have the issue.

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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fasteddy
I would get the door where you want it, and then get the upper fender aligned to that, then the lower fender. It is the GM NOS fenders that have the issue.

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Is there a published process for aligning the upper fender? Or is it just loosen the bolts and push/pry?
Old Jul 28, 2023 | 02:54 PM
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Is there a published process for aligning the upper fender? Or is it just loosen the bolts and push/pry?
There could be in the service manual? I would

1- get the door where it needs to be
2-set the height of the fender at the top aligned to the door
3-set the distance out at the top of the fender
4-adjust the bottom of the fender out/in down/up with shims

It is tough to get a good tight gap at the top of the fender without them hitting when you open the door. At least you paint already needs to be touched up

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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by fasteddy
There could be in the service manual? I would

1- get the door where it needs to be
2-set the height of the fender at the top aligned to the door
3-set the distance out at the top of the fender
4-adjust the bottom of the fender out/in down/up with shims

It is tough to get a good tight gap at the top of the fender without them hitting when you open the door. At least you paint already needs to be touched up

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Is there a vertical adjustment at the top? Your step 2 makes it sound like there is. And yeah it’s all chipped now! I think it’s always been really close at that spot, there’s been a chip there for decades
Old Jul 28, 2023 | 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DJS70cutlass
Is there a vertical adjustment at the top? Your step 2 makes it sound like there is. And yeah it’s all chipped now! I think it’s always been really close at that spot, there’s been a chip there for decades
Yes shims under the brace on top of the cowl.

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Old Jul 28, 2023 | 07:36 PM
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Don't be surprised if the rear edge of the passenger fender sits higher than the driver's side.
Old Jul 29, 2023 | 11:00 AM
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Adding shims under the bottom attaching point of the fender tends to pull the fender down and in.
Old Jul 29, 2023 | 01:47 PM
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Loosen all bolts and add shims on the firewall there should be a quarter inch gap or over between the door and fender oem specs.then check carefully for clearance. It takes time and have extra shims handy. Use 2 paint sticks for rocker gap clearance oem average custom gaps take welding and refinishing
Old Jul 31, 2023 | 07:12 AM
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Thanks for the replies everyone! Got it adjusted so the door now clears






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