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Thanks for the post!

Do we think Steve's right when he says no 4-speed was available in a '61 Olds? I know for a fact that Chevy offered a T-10, and I think Pontiac did as well, so why not Olds (and even Buick for that matter)?

 

Nice...thanks for sharing. 👍

 

In the 1961 thru 1964 era, Chevy made a lot of 4 speed "B" body cars.
Pontiac made quite a few.
Even stodgy Buick made a few 4 speed Wildcats and LeSabres.
Oldsmobile made exactly zero.
The 4 speed wasn't offered in a "B" body Oldsmobile until 1965.

I read something on the H.A.M.B one time, written by an ex Olds test engineer, that Olds had experimented with the Warner T-10 in a full size car.
The experiment failed because the Olds was a heavy car. and the engine had a lot of low end torque.
This broke transmissions.
When Olds finally did put a 4 speed in a "B" body they used a Muncie.
Olds did offer a heavy duty 3 speed (on the column) on Dynamic and Super 88's in 61 thru 64.

 

Good info. Thanks, Charlie.

 

And I remember it was made by ford= Dearborn...Tedd?

 

Thanks for sharing this. Wish they had brought better lighting.

 

I first saw Harry Soenksen's turquoise 61 with 3 speed stick on the column and streamlined Olds optional "heavy duty" [race] exhaust manifolds at the Nationals in 1977. His son still brings the car to the Nationals and it is still in original very nice condition. Olds sent him a letter stating that the 4 speed was not available.

 

Yup. "Dearborn" Toploader. Those 394s broke GM's available 3-speeds too.

No more market than there was for 3-speed stick Buicks, Oldsmobiles and Pontiacs, it was more cost effective to buy them from the folks across town than to build a 3-speed that could take the BOP engines in-house.

 

No, the trans used in 61 thru 64 was made by Buick.
It was the "Roadmaster" trans. (6 bolt top cover)
The Ford three speed came later.