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Old Sep 5, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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hi, my 65 starfire sat for a few months, took for a short ride and found pass side brake light and rear blinker did not work ,front signals and d/s rear worked d/s rear brake light also worked ,tried switching bulbs nothing.also all the parking lights did work,so thopught it might be turn signal switch in steering wheel , so pulled steering wheel and the right rear blinker started to work , so all works now ,except the rear right brake light , there is power at the brake switch, so if anyone has any suggestions, would appreciate the help , thanks will.
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 09:53 AM
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Sounds like a ground issue. If it is anything like my 65 Cutlass, then you need to make sure the outlet is properly grounded to the body. My back driver side brake light went out and I went crazy trying to get it to ground properly. Finally, I had it up on a rack to work on the oil pan which puts a lot of stress on the frame of a convertible. Once we dropped it back down the brake light worked. Has worked ever since.
Old Sep 5, 2012 | 10:27 AM
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The first thing I do when I have lights acting up is start looking for bad bulbs. When one bulb burns out stuff goes haywire. Just a thought
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 07:41 AM
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I would theck the contacts in that socket for voltage first, sometimes they get corroded and the spring loaded contact gets stuck. If there is no voltage there then I move forward.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 09:07 AM
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thanks for the reply, any way here is where i am, i checked the sockets,changed bulbs around, then i have d/s brake ,so unplugged that flat harness where it goes into trunk, had , put stick on brake pedal, and tested for power ,and i had it to the d/s whitch was the yellow wire ,and the green wire to p/s had nothing, so i have another harness , so followed that up front and it went to the turn signal switch inside steering column,all other lights are working ,so i am going to borrow a tester that can run power through a wire ,and try that and if the power makes to the back of car , i figure it must be turn signal switch, i have never replace it , will let all know how it turns out ,thanks again, will.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 09:55 AM
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Why not just take a long wire and connect one side to the battery + and the other to the green wire at the connector on the steering column. It may just be a bad connection at that connector.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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yup, thanks that is what i did, and light came on,so it is strange, all looks well with connectors,it just does not make sense to me , i have power coming in from the brake switch,yet it is only coming out of yellow to d/s so does that mean the turn signal switch delivers the power to different terminals in that connector? will.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 12:16 PM
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When the turn sig switch is in center, the turn signal switch connects lead from brake switch to both rear light wires. When in LEFT turn mode it connects brake switch lead to RIGHT rear side. In RIGHT turn mode the brake switch lead is connected to the LEFT side only.
In other words, if turn is off and brake is on, power should come out of the signal switch on both of the wires that feed the rear lights.
If the turn signal switch did not seperate the feed from the brake switch this way, the rear lights would not flash for a turn when the brake pedal is depressed.
Did this make any sense? Sometimes I don't explain things very well. :0
Hope this helps.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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None of my scematics show the actual switch, but you may have a bad t/s switch. What happens when you turn on the 4 ways. And possibly could the signal stat be inop?
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 01:01 PM
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It has been my experience with these cars that the bulbs do not make good contact with the tiny prongs in the socket base. The springs get compressed or stick and do not always contact the bulb. My fix has been to add a bb of solder to the lamp bottom contacts.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldsmaniac
It has been my experience with these cars that the bulbs do not make good contact with the tiny prongs in the socket base. The springs get compressed or stick and do not always contact the bulb. My fix has been to add a bb of solder to the lamp bottom contacts.
He explained that he ran a jumper from the battery to the column connector and all the lights lite. So thats not the issue, it's somewhee between the connector and his directional switch.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 02:13 PM
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He explained that he ran a jumper from the battery to the column connector and all the lights lite. So thats not the issue, it's somewhee between the connector and his directional switch.
Sorta missed that but what I said about the sockets is something to keep in mind. They sometimes cause an intermittant problem too.
Old Sep 6, 2012 | 03:32 PM
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appreciate all the help ,i am going back out tonight ,and see what happens ,thanks, will.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 10:07 AM
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well took a turn signal switch out of another old column and it works fine ,now would you all go with a new for 79.00 , or go with the used one , i wish i could see why old one quit , but can,t , any way thanks to all for the help will.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 10:12 AM
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Does it swithc correctly, on the link I sent you it says whats hooked to what. Does it ohm out?
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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your post helped me very much ,made it so i could understand how it was suppose to work , my spare one is all in and working good, so that saved me 100.00 bucks ,and i look at it this way ,if it don,t last ,ill get a new one ,and just look at the learning curve i will have , im going to check the old one out till i find out what happened to it , any way thanks a million, will.
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