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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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would a disconnected dtvs/ported thermal vacuum switch cause hesitation while the engine is cold. because i noticed its broken and the vac lines are plugged. 260,2bbl
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:35 AM
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Hesitation.

Hi. If it's the one to your vacumn advance on the distributor, Yes it will. Don't plug them, it is best to connect them together. One is a supply, the other goes to the intended vacumn controled device. Also, If you happen to find a new TVS, let me know. I need one as well. Hope this helps. Jim.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 05:22 AM
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Do either of you have a pic of this part? I have a couple of things left over from my 260 to 403 swap. I may be able to help. If you can't post a pic here, you can email me at dreamsolds@yahoo.com. Let me know if I can help.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Hi. Here's a pic of a broken one, minus the connecting points. A number is pressed in the top. 3030951. Any help would be great. Thanks, jim.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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i didnt plug the lines they were plugged when i got the car. i ordered a new dtvs from advance for 19 bucks. its part number pvs100
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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The one I have, has three points, not the two your's is showing. Mine screws into the top of the intake. If your interested, let me know and I can email you a pic.
Old Apr 11, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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mine has 3 also but on the vacuum diagram the top and bottom do connected so you could probably use a two port switch
Old Apr 12, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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Hi, what year engines are you guys talking here? The switch on my '73 engine is not connected completely or possibly correctly. Engine runs like crap when cold,(except when on fast idle) and idles rough even when warm. I suspect I have carb problems, but since this ported vacuum switch is integrated in the sytem(which includes EGR), I'm sure it plays a part. I'm looking into scrapping the whole system if I can't get it all working correctly.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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i have a 78 cutty with an olds 260 v8
Old Mar 16, 2009 | 11:24 AM
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I am having the exact same problem with my '73 delta 88 350. The engines performs sluggishly when cold. Someone has bypassed my dtvs and gone to a ported vacuum source on the carb. I think this should work, but I am at a loss why the car runs so poorly when cold.
This problem has been plaguing my delta. I have rebuilt the carb and have a new msd distributor and coil, so I am at a loss if it isn't the dtvs.

Thanks in advance,
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Old Mar 16, 2009 | 11:42 AM
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The TVS should have no effect when the engine is cold. The sole purpose of this switch is to run full manifold vacuum to the distributor if the engine gets too HOT. You all have a different problem with your cold running issues.
Old Mar 17, 2009 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisM
........ to a ported vacuum source on the carb. I think this should work .......
If the vacuum advance pot is working properly, it will.

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........ why the car runs so poorly when cold ........
Choke would be the first place to look.

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........ I have rebuilt the carb ........
Did you adjust the choke?

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........ a new msd distributor and coil ........
I'm sure they look pretty.

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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by 88 coupe
If the vacuum advance pot is working properly, it will.
Vacuum advance is working. Checked it with a timing light. The question was more directed at whether the dtvs "tunes" vacuum to the advance "pot" based upon running temp

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Choke would be the first place to look.
Choke may need to be richened some.

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Did you adjust the choke?
I adjusted the choke to spec per the rochester repair manual

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I'm sure they look pretty.
Definately matches the color of the car, which is why I picked it.
Old Mar 17, 2009 | 10:24 AM
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Chris - Are there any more hoses going to the bypassed valve?
If so, where do they go?

My 72 had a 'somewhat bypassed' TCS valve when I bought it. They hooked the disty right to manifold vacuum and left the ported vacuum hose on the valve with no other hoses on it. Under certain conditions the ported vac source would be sucking air through the open valve ports and caused issues. I plugged any unused ports.

Not sure how similar your dtvs valve works compared to the tcs valve...

Any vacuum leak (even small ones) will play more havoc with a cold engine...

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Old Mar 17, 2009 | 12:26 PM
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Lady72nRob71-
Currently there are no vacuum lines going to the DTVS. My vacuum advance goes directly to the a ported vacuum source on the carb. A vacuum leak is a good place to start. I will check it out. Thanks.
Old Mar 18, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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I probably have one for both of your cars.
Let me know if you want me to start digging.
Old Mar 23, 2009 | 01:02 PM
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Thanks for the offer J-, but I just picked one up from NAPA.
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